Hi, I am Daryl Cagle and this is the Caglecast where we're
all about political cartoons.
And today we are talking about the World Humor Awards and the World
Humor Awards are in Italy this year and we've got all the winners and we
have two of the main people that were, dealing with the award on the juries.
they are Marco D'Angelis, who is our newest Kegel cartoonist.
He comes from Italy.
He's our first Italian cartoonist.
I'm very happy to have you, Marco.
Yes.
I don't know, it is voice.
Okay.
And we have Robin Schwartzman.
And Robin is a caricature cartoonist and she's the president of the ISCA.
It's a caricature organization.
thank you for being here, Robin.
Thank you so much for having me.
So we're gonna talk about, all the cartoons, the winners in all of these
categories and, why you picked them and what the World Humor Awards are.
I think this will all be great fun.
Okay.
Looking forward to it.
Oh, very good.
So Marco, let's start off with you,
a cartoon from Not, from the World Humor Award is from, other publications
and, exhibition around the world.
won first prize in, San Antonio de Los Banos in Cuba.
Oh.
This year There's a exhibition I won Grand Prix, and the first prize in
the free section is a big success.
And this is, I think, one of the most, important problem of our society and this
history, the cancel culture, politically correct, the negation of freedom of south
people with no good sense, rejecting good sense.
But I, I think, look at, actual society, that, were many people
without, brain symbolically, of course.
Marco, I should say.
he has won 160 awards around the world at competitions, which is
really pretty darn impressive.
And he was a juror in the humor in comics category in Italy this
year at the World Humor Awards.
And I'm just showing some of his, award winners from other competitions.
He's also illustrated tons of children's books and he's
been a cartoonist since 1975.
So, great pleasure to have you here, Marco, and great pleasure
to have you join Cagle Cartoons,
This won the Golden Palm and, in a period, of the, the Yugoslav War
with Bosnia and Kosovo and Serbia.
And, at the situation, we can see that is the same that, in those days.
This is, this is also an award winner,
No, in, the international Salon of Bertiga (France) was, held
for, for 50 years from 19, 54.
And, was the first exhibition in the world about humor, gag and
editorial cartoons about also.
Humor books or also humor literature, humor comics.
And, Golden Palm was awarded,
with the Golden Palm,. And, is, I think in my career, this, is, an important moment.
Well, congratulations on this one, Marco.
That's a great cartoon.
We need for you to upload these wonderful oldies to our archive.
So the American newspapers see them now that you've joined.
But, I published them from, 50 years, from 19 and 75.
then I have a thousand and thousand of cartoons, editorial cartoons.
Also, gag cartoons, illustration for, children's books or for
magazines or daily newspaper.
I am a also professional journalist.
Then for the newspapers, I published the articles, but,
every day, an editorial cartoons.
Marco,
you're a Treasure.
This one won the Hurriyet competition in Turkey,
in Turkey Aydin Dogan is, now is, the Oscar of cartooning, and it is
the first prize in, nine years ago.
I won the first prize also in, in, 1987.
The big problem of, our times, the immigration, refugees,
Well, I think this is a great cartoon.
I'm very impressed with it.
Yeah.
not even just the content, but the, the way it's executed, right,
the rendering, the, soft folds and the sheets is really beautiful.
It is.
And it, shows the desperation versus the just being uncomfortable with this coming
in between us in, such an intimate way.
I think that's just a, a very wonderful witty cartoon.
My, how about this one?
Is
this one also an award winner?
There is a cartoon over 1985, you think,
oh, it should be
good forever.
The same situation in, it's a very dramatic, very dramatic, but, I, I, my
choice was to realize, cartoons without words only, the, the images, only the
graphic, a graphic comment with, surreal message, with, using, using the paradox,
the serial situation, the metaphor.
Well, this is a great cartoon.
We call cartoons like this, evergreens, because they never get old and
you can always, use them forever.
And, I think you've got a lot of these that you need to upload to us.
So tell us about this one.
They're trading brains
and I think, some, sometime the, the humor, the satire is really
prescient because also this, this is, I was published on the, the
American, digest in, 1985 or, or in 87 then many, many years ago.
I love, science fiction.
Then I think also as a cartoonist, I look ahead to the future.
then it is, the, the future that I think, for the humanity.
But this is now real.
I was just going to say this is no longer the future.
This is quite, quite relevant
this is one, that, you uploaded for the syndicate, and I think this is great.
Another situation about the immigration, the, the two worlds, the, the desperation
of workers and the refugees and migrants and the tranquility of the normal
family of the western, countries.
This one is just, a lovely composition.
It is
forever.
The title is forever.
also this, because the, the situation is the same from, dozens of years
from farmer, from years and years.
the pea is also blocked in this bowl of, glass.
Marco, you are just brilliant and I'm delighted to have you join us.
And I'm gonna introduce Robin.
Wonderful.
Okay.
Robin is the president of ISCA, the International Society of Caricature
Artists, and they are a co-sponsor of the World Humor Awards that
we're just about to, show you.
And she was on the jury for the caricature awards, one of the two
caricature awards, and she teaches art at the University of Minnesota.
And welcome Robin.
We will, show a bunch of your stuff.
Thank you.
Mine's a little less, heady and a little more playful, but you know,
such as sometimes the caricature world.
I think your stuff is great.
I think Macaulay Culkin's teeth just, made me laugh out loud.
I don't think, cartoonist.
Pay enough attention to teeth because teeth are so interesting and expressive
and really, really could define a person without your having thought about them.
And,
absolutely.
Yeah.
With Macaulay Culkin there, I think a great example of that.
I also just love contrast between characters and, and shapes and, and when
you do these kind of group compositions, you can really play on the kind of
hotdog versus hamburger shapes in the, the breadth of, of human heads.
So,
very good.
So here's the Addams family and, this is, just great stuff.
Denzel Washington.
Mm-hmm.
This one, was one that I noodled with for about.
10 hours to get a likeness.
I was happy with, and I sort of settled on this one and said, okay, I'm done.
And wasn't sure about it.
And then when I put it out into the world of social media, it got such a
overwhelmingly positive response from people in a way I wasn't expecting.
And so it just goes to show that sometimes the drawings that you're not sure about
the audience receives quite differently.
And so it's grown on me over time.
Well, his expression is very good and his looking out of the frame is provocative.
His looking to the right is provocative because you expect a cartoon to
read from left to right and he's looking in the wrong direction.
So that, you know, that is a little bit abrasive and it's just, it's all very
nice and, provocative in a subtle way.
So I, very good.
and who is this?
This is, the artist Basquiat, Jean-Michel Basquiat, who's a, well-known painter.
And, yeah, just really playing on those, the weight of the hands.
very inspired by Hirschfeld, obviously here.
We love Hirschfeld.
So tell us about your Hirschfeld inspiration.
When I was a kid, my grandparents lived in Connecticut and they, had volunteered
for the New Haven Schubert Theater.
And so they had this poster hanging in the basement outside of their
laundry room that was from a, a play at the New Haven, Schubert Theater.
And it was what I would later come to realize, drawings of hirschfeld.
But when I was a kid, I didn't know any of that.
I would just stare at this poster and be mesmerized it was cartoons but not
the same kind of cartoons I had seen in animations or in the newspapers.
I knew something was different about it.
And so I absorbed I think a lot of that at a very young age.
And then later was able to identify who that artist was and then study his work.
well, we all, we all miss Intensity
first film.
He was, he was a great influence for cartooning.
And, tell us about this one.
Yeah, this is just a fun little Ted Danson and, just playing around.
I typically draw in black and white or minimal, colors or spot colors.
And so this one was just a little bit fun to play with some more blocks of shades to
Very good
to contrast against the line work.
Yeah.
there's AOC Do you wanna tell us a little bit I about ISCA and what
you do with them and what ISCA is?
Yeah.
The International Society of Caricature Artists is a nonprofit trade organization
dedicated to celebrating the art and artists of caricature around the globe.
we have been around for 34 years, so this November we'll be having
our 34th annual conference and competition, which we do annually.
And our conference is the biggest gathering of caricature artists
in the world and is kind of known as the Olympics of caricature.
We've got, a lot of competitions and a big awards banquet at the end.
And so if you're a caricature artist, it's kind of one of
the main places you can really.
Have your work, highlighted and celebrated.
But in addition to that, we have guest speakers.
There's lots of networking and comradery, so it's a really great place to kind
of meet your heroes and be inspired and feel the energy of the room.
but beyond the conference, we do things, throughout the year we
have an annual printed compendium and, a member exclusive blog.
So we have tutorials and interviews year round and, and
host, virtual drawing sessions.
And so, yeah, if you're a caricature artist and wanna learn more, even
if you're just getting started or passionate about the art form,
I highly recommend joining ISCA.
Excellent.
So it took this long and now we're going to get to all the award
winners from the World Humor Awards.
Marco, you won an award with this one at the World Humor Awards.
Tell us
about this,
this, two phases of the world.
rich countries, the rich food and the poor, poverty of south of the world
different division of the economies.
I think it's great to see a hamburger representing all of the Western
world rather than just America.
And, very good for you to, to give that equal opportunity,
description to the hamburger.
The big burger, represent, represent, I think food of all the rich, societies.
No, very, very fast and, and smart.
on the back of big burger there is an economy, poor and economy.
Very good.
Now, this was the grand prize winner in the humor in comics, division.
Can you tell us about this one?
Okay, this is, the other cartoon is, was, out of, of contest of course, because,
I am member, of the jury, is first prize of in World Humor awards of, this
here, the 10th edition is, a sula from Albania and, Agim Sulaj from Albania.
Agim Sulaj from Albania, yes.
Is a famous cartoonist, that, won all other prizes, also in award humor awards,
some years ago, won the third prize and, did that theme of this, year was, about
economy, the poverty, and richness.
How the money just goes through the poor and back to the rich.
So
different, differences in the society.
Very good.
Now this was the Golden Trophy, and here is the Bronze trophy by Angel
Boligan from Mexico, who is a, an
excellent Cagle Cartoonist.
Yes, Angel Boligan by Mexico, and this is also,, the Golden
Prize with Ramses Morales.
From, Cuba.
Well, I think this is just a brilliant cartoon.
You know, men get credit for making the world go round, but it's really
women that are lifting the weight of making the world go round.
And he's done that in a subtle way, and he's got the woman obscured, so it's
clear that she's not getting credit.
This is just a very lovely and, for something so, bold, surprisingly subtle
way of presenting something so bold.
I think it's just a beautiful cartoon.
I think there is a very interesting, and this exhibition, but also other
contest is the difference, style of, the, artist to finding the idea to send a,
a graphic comment about, some argument.
The, comment about, the society, the richness and the poverty.
Angel Boligan look to the, the report, between, men and, women
and the theme of the cartoons and comics.
I am sorry.
As the world turns,
as the world turns is the theme of, so, we're, we're seeing
lots of, images of the world,
I should
say, how the world turns,
how the world turns.
I've got it.
How the world turn.
So, how the world turns is the theme of this, portion of the competition.
And, that's why you see lots of worlds in turning
how the world turns, but has many, many, many significance.
this is the silver,
silver trophy, Constantin Kazanchev from Ukraine.
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Workers and all the powerful elite are supported by, lies.
All by lies.
So, tell us about this one.
Why did you select this one?
You were on this jury.
Well, this is, do, do you the, the, the Pinocchio is, the, the icon of
the lies, represent the lies in the society, the lies in the world of work
over religion, over the, the policy.
This one also makes a how, how
the, how the word turn.
I like this one 'cause it also references the famous photos of the
lunch workers in New York on top of the skyscraper, if you can remember that,
where they're all sitting on the, the beam kind of floating over the city.
And so it's a little precarious.
So there's a lot of interesting, references in this one working together.
That's great.
I missed that one.
Okay.
This one is by Ramses Morales Isquierdo from Cuba.
Yes, exactly.
With, with Boligan is also, a good message.
but simple but very strong.
the difference from the south and the north of the, the world.
I, I should say I went to the, competition, the exhibition
this year and, it was great fun.
It's in the Parma area of Italy, which is not where you think to go as an
American tourist is where Parmesan cheese and Parma ham come from.
And it was just, very charming and full of castles.
And, I had a wonderful time and, I got to meet both of you and I made
lots of new friends and, so I'm, I'm a big fan of World Humor Awards.
Now,
This is, one that I drew, that won an award in this contest.
And, thank you very much for that and for inviting me.
And I had a, I had a great time.
Your cartoon?
Yeah, that was my cartoon.
Enough of that.
They see me all the time on this podcast.
So, tell us.
He's
also there.
He was awarded, eh, we have a
Yes.
And this is the other what his name award that I did.
Lapidus Excellence Trophy by Fabio
Fabio Finocchioli.
Also this, the cartoons of, special prize.
Well, very good.
So Robin, we've gotten up to, your caricature category.
This one is by Olivarez Lindsay from Spain as the first prize in the ISCA section.
Tell us about this.
Yeah, so this year we, had our inaugural partnership with the World Humor Awards.
By we, I mean, ISCA, where we had a special, separate category called the ISCA
World Humor Awards, where we invited our members, our, professional ISCA members
to submit to the, World Humor Awards.
And this year, the World Humor Awards always provides a list of six
different subjects that the artists can choose from, and then they can
draw and submit up to two caricatures
subjects, meaning
people?
People, correct.
So this year it was, I'm gonna pronounce some of these names incorrectly, so I
apologize, but Elon Musk was one of them.
Georgia Maloney, the, prime Minister of Italy, Tadej Pogač ar, I'm
not pronouncing that correctly, but he is a Slovenian cyclist.
And then Lucia,
a Slovenian cyclist.
Yes.
and then Lucia Reer,
that's, to me, that strikes me as very obscure.
Yeah.
Lucia Rijker, who's a Dutch boxer, and then, Tim Roth, an English actor, and
Whoopi Goldberg, the American actress.
So those were the subjects.
And so for the ISCA World Humor Award, ISCA put together a separate jury of
three former Golden Nosey winners.
And the Golden Nosey in the world of ISCA is like the Academy Award.
It's the creme de la creme that makes you the caricature artist of the year.
So our jury was composed of Daniel Stieglitz, who is a German caricature
artist, Hitomi Ishihara, who's a Japanese caricature artist, and Kev Jackson,
who's an American caricature artist.
And so the three of them looked at all of the submissions from our members.
Went through the jury process and picked the, a top three,
a gold, silver and a bronze.
So Lindsay's piece, of Elon Musk was our, big gold winner for the
ISCA World Humor Awards this year.
Well, I think this is a great one, and his mouth makes me laugh.
So this is the Slovenian cyclist?
Yep.
And this is by Ray Gorlin.
And Ray is actually a caricature artist based here in Minnesota where I'm located.
So, that was exciting.
But yeah, really just compelling, I think like what I'd call a body situation here.
turning the cyclist legs into the bicycle I think was really, really clever.
Excellent.
And tell us about this one.
Yeah, this is your third place winner.
This is the third place, and this is by Svetlana Novikova,
who's based in Austin, Texas.
And this is a version of Whoopi Goldberg.
And Svetlana is really known for, extreme exaggeration and
kind of reducing or taking out features and exaggerating others.
Do think, do you think Whoopi has, buck teeth?
you know, it's, it's exaggerated, but I can definitely tell the
likeness and the birds nester.
I can,
I can
certainly see the likeness too.
It it, whether she had buck teeth or not even, that doesn't seem to matter even
though, it's a main focus of the thing.
And, is there a story behind the blue eggs in her hair?
if there is, I don't know the reference, but I was just guess
getting the, the bird's nest vibes, so.
Okay.
There might be something that she was in that referred to, blue
eggs, but that, I don't know.
Well, very good.
Now tell us about this one.
This is, the Golden Trophy.
Now this is like a third jury that selected another
set of caricature artists.
Is that right?
Robin?
The juror for the main World Humor Awards juried both the
comics and the caricature section.
And so there was sort of two main juries, the World Humor Award
proper, and then the ISCA World Humor Award, which is a separate jury.
So Marco, you were the juror for this grand prize winner
in the caricature category?
Yes.
we received a lot of, caricature, And, this is, effectively the, the,
most impressive in the landscape of the, the participation, and
I should say the, this is
Georgia Meloni, who is
Georgia Meloni,
Prime Minister Italy, prime Minister.
And, Marilyn Ardi is, the very clever artist, Italian artist,
interpreted, very, very, very well.
The, the, the person also the spirit of the George Meloni body with the, the.
walking is, is very interesting.
I should say.
Marilena is just a, a brilliant cartoonist and, I've always
been very impressed with her.
and also you see the barbed wire on, Georgia Meloni clothes, Georgia
Meloni's known for, very much trying to keep the migrants out of Italy.
so the reason for the barbed wire,
okay.
As, as, a strong message about the policy of, Georgia Meloni,
It was published, on, daily newspaper and, other, other publication.
And I think,
it is, it's on the cover of Very
nice catalog.
Yes.
I think it's very nice
catalog.
I've gotta say also.
Okay.
now tell me about this one.
This one is,
I think
this is one o of the most, clever, caries in the world.
Moine.
Philippe Moine
is
very, very, very beautiful.
this, this, brilliant French is very impressive.
And this is the British actor Tim Roth, who.
I don't know who this guy is, British actor Tim Roth,
but it looks just like him.
Yeah, I would say that, Monsieur Moine Moine skill is really in, in
this rendering, right, this, I dunno if I'd call it hyper realistic, but
it definitely leans more towards the realistic, but just the technique used
to render the skin and, and every single little hair and the fabric, right?
It's very meticulous and very skillful.
Well, he is just a brilliant and, nice guy.
So this one.
The style is very different and, be because ma many ma many
participants, only few participants, try to, to, a good, caricature of,
Elon Musk or Meloni, for example.
This is one, one of the best caricature of a Musk, in the.
It
is a, a great caricature.
Can you tell me what M-W-T-S-T-P-D on the, the license plate means?
I don't know.
My only guess is I am with stupid.
I am with stupid.
Yes.
That must be,
that's very good.
Or something.
We'll, we'll have to ask Theodosis on that one, but I, yeah.
I love the windup toy car here.
And, yeah, Theodosis is just a, a master at this pencil hatching style.
He's the judge.
Yes.
Yes,
I like him.
He was very good
so this is Mario Magnati, Italy and, special prize, Rino Montanari.
And, is, he won the first prize some years ago and, he is also very, good,
caricaturist with, very, very quickly.
So this is, Ares from Cuba and, This is really a charming cartoon.
I, it's something that could be interpreted in lots of different ways.
Oh, but there is, his interpretation.
It's not precisely the term.
But, another view of the arguments of the world is also the direction
is growing the humanity and, the man, look, for the significance for
the future, for the real destiny.
very good.
So Egil Nyhus from Norway.
Norway.
This is another, view of the world.
This is,
they turns around the world, but the world also turns inside.
I mean, I just, I just see it as a humorous take on Yeah.
raw, naked, vulnerable, humans running around, chasing each other, making,
that's the energy, making the world spin.
But,
okay.
Beyond that, I'm not sure.
This one is from Tayo Fatunla, who is a Nigerian cartoonist who lives in London.
He's also a Cagle Cartoonist.
And, his cartoons appear in Sub-Saharan West African newspapers.
And he's got, Trump, who I guess is the, monster abusive spouse abusing liberty.
So, what do you think?
Liberty has nowhere to run and nowhere to hide.
Yeah, this is very impressive.
This is, this, the style is a, an American cartoons.
Like, but there is, the silhouette of, of Trump is, significance.
Any comments on this one, Robin?
I mean, poor liberty is in a cold, dark room.
We can feel the emotion and the weight, the American flag as the
blanket that she's crying into.
But yeah, I mean, compositionally, I, I think it's brilliant, the use
of negative space and yeah, obviously very weighty, relevant message.
So,
so here we have
Hicabi, is a famous, cartoonist in Turkey.
And, one.
He won in the past.
in other exhibitions, count as, many prizes and, is
also another interpretation.
Well, this is interesting.
So,
some spiritual, some, scientific,
the curse of original sin, also falls upon science.
So I'm not entirely getting the point.
Maybe you have some insight on this.
How does, the biblical curse of original sin impact Isaac Newton?
You know, sometimes these cartoons, look very, Deep and thoughtful, but
when I try to figure 'em out, I have no idea what they mean and, this
falls into that category for me.
I don't know.
I don't understand.
Sorry.
Alright, very good.
Um, this is from Kevin Kallagher, "Kal," American cartoonist.
You've got the World.
The World says, I long for the Cold War when all that concerned
me was nuclear annihilation.
And there you have all of these other great issues, climate change, war
pandemics, and artificial intelligence pushing back the door on the poor world.
I think this is very nice, drawn for The Economist.
Yes, but do you know Kal very well?
And,
Kal is a convention friend.
A good, good idea.
Very, very actual.
And also we, we prefer, the, the, in the jury, in the word humor, words
prefer the, the cartoons without, words.
But, this, this idea is very nice.
then we selected.
Well, I think
this cartoon could have been just as good without the words.
You know, I appreciate the point about the Cold War and nuclear annihilation
not being pushing on the door at this moment, but it really kind of is.
He might have just added Mr H-Bomb to, push on the door as well.
but it's good.
I agree.
The text could have been removed and it could have been equally
as powerful of a message.
This one is by Luc Vernimmen from Belgium, and I think this is a great cartoon.
Tell us about this one, Marco.
Well, this is, Vernimmen is also well known, and this is a good
idea , because this is real.
The money pushes back the upper classes, the money classes push
back and the world goes nowhere.
I
think
this one interesting.
I think that's a great cartoon.
I think also the people, disparate people that push on the world.
You had a comment, Robin?
Yeah, I mean this one's interesting because it's using
some collage element, right?
, The money it looks like to me, like it's, pulled from like a
photo of money and not drawn.
And I haven't seen that in a lot of the other entries.
This is also another Italian cartoonist, Mauro Talarico,
was, selected, was a finalist.
is another idea about the war and the poor people, and the,
this, is a portrait, of our time.
I think
it's the callous, uncaring, treatment by, war of, the
people in the world who suffer.
I think this is a very nice cartoon.
Very, very nice.
Very,
yes, Yeah, Arico is a good, cartoonist.
He and also Illustrator.
He also is a teacher in a humor comics school is, is very, is also was awarded
summer, you ago in award humor awards.
we are, in the jury of the World Humor Awards, so we are
10 me members of the jury.
And is a difficult to, to select, the best, few best cartoons, from the, a lot
of participants and, participants of, it all, I told you that, the, we invited,
only the, a selected number of cartoonists in the world, but they are, hundreds
and arrive a lot of, very good, works.
This is Neils Bo Bojesen and from Denmark is a very big cartoonist
and, well known in the world.
And,
And, Trump.
Trump is a dark shadow on the world.
He is he is, another Italian cartoonist and also, by the, he, think to the hand
of, of God from the Sistine Chapelle.
Mm-hmm.
And, with the, I don't know the name of the, that's a top the game.
Okay.
And Israel also is with the hurt.
Just about to spin the top in, in this.
Luxembourg also.
Yes.
And the world.
This is the destiny.
I have seen probably a hundred cartoons of the world as a bomb.
but this is a nice one.
This is
from Brazil.
So is she dreaming of when the tree, or is she the tree that's grown up
also?
the also this, with a shadow, but another shadow is not Trump for the
world, but is the, is a message of hope.
I think,
A message of hope.
The little Okay, water,
that she, she is the growth that one day will become the watering of the world.
Well, there are, there are few prizes, but prize, for example, the Lepidus
excellent trophy, from, Finnocchioli.
And, also, Daryl Cagle, and the Lepidus will say, so the, the main
sponsor of the, the, the exhibition.
But, but the award awards has also a literary prize every year, to a
different writer, famous writer, or.
humor, humoristic writer or other that realize the, some, humor
books and the, the prize the special prize for the, the comics.
Well, very good.
Do either of you have any last words?
I'll just say that I think it's great that these kinds of events and competitions
take place because so often as artists, we work alone in our studios and we're
very focused on the task at hand.
And so these are an opportunity not only for us to have the work
celebrated and amplified, but then for a group of artists to get to come
together and celebrate each other.
So I think it's a, a wonderful annual event.
It was a wonderful event, and thank you for all you do, Marco.
And thank you Robin, both jurors at the event.
Yes, it was, this is a wonderful meeting for together to speak about our works,
but also, about what humor awards to, to tell about, this international meeting.
the spirit of humor and the satire and, over the friendship, I think
is the most important prize is.
For, for us.
I made lots of great friends at this thing, and thank you so much.
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This was lots of fun.
Thank you.
Okay, greetings from Italy.
Very good.
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