Hi, I'm Daryl Cagle, and this is the Caglecast where we're
all about editorial cartoons.
And today we have Bill Day Adam Zyglis at Dave Whamond who have the distinction
of having drawn more Trump as an animal cartoons than any other nationally
syndicated editorial cartoonists.
I think that, uh, I think you deserve an award for that gentleman, but
all you get is this podcast and my sincere thanks for your, your
excellent zoological presidency.
And, we're gonna start off with Dave.
Nice.
Dave here, you've got Trump Lame Duck a l'orange.
I think this is funny as hell.
Well, oh, thanks.
I can't remember what the situation was for.
This must have been the later part of his, uh, first term, but, it
just came to me that, uh, duck.
a l'o range is a natural for Trump, and it's one of those one you, once you get
the idea, you can't wait to draw it.
So the trick is, well, there
were a, there were a bunch of, uh, lame duck trumps.
Oh, there were.
Okay.
Yeah.
Talk about this presidency being his whole lame duck presidency.
Yeah.
Uh, but, none a l'orange.
And most of them are all very much the same in lots of,
Donald Duck and, uh mm-hmm.
I mean, the duck aran is, uh, it's sweet.
He's, he's turned a little bit darker orange than he is here.
Yeah.
Whole bronze.
He keeps getting darker orange.
Yeah.
The trick too was, um, with a bill, I found it tricky to
make it look like him as well.
so I think, um, and get the expression right, but I think it worked out okay.
But I found that a little tricky to take an animal and, and or
morph a politician into an animal.
Sometimes it starts to not look like them.
So.
It's what we live for Dave.
Yeah.
Sometimes you're throwing paper around the room though 'cause
it's not working out so well.
Here's the stable genius.
Uh, that's very funny.
Oh, thanks.
Yeah, I'm sure this has been done too before, but I couldn't resist.
Uh, I tried to make his face into a long horse's nose, but it wasn't
working out, so I decided just to put, put the face on the, the horse neck.
So
the mouth?
Yeah, the mouth next.
This horse.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
Very good horse mouth.
Thanks.
Now I thought this was just a beautiful cartoon.
the Trump bull in a China shop.
Yeah.
This was really fun to draw.
Like I, you know, you live for cartoons like this.
I just, I didn't want it to end once I was finished, so it just, all fell into place.
So
That's great perspective too.
Thank you.
Well, congratulations on that one.
I thought this was also a wonderful cartoon and, you made it just so
much nicer with the, the shadow behind it, which, you could have
gotten away without, but it mm-hmm.
It makes it so much nicer.
Well, thank, I kind of wanted to have a feeling of, of doom, uh, with this one.
And I just had the vignette before and it was, it was fine, but it
wasn't quite making it so as soon as I popped in the shadow, which is nice
about when you're doing it digitally, you can try different things and you
don't end up ruining the artwork.
So, so, so Dave,
I should say that you come to us from Calgary, Canada.
Mm-hmm.
You are incredibly prolific.
You draw two comics, Reality Check and Day by Dave.
And you're also a prolific illustrator.
You do puzzles, greeting cards, and lots of top-selling children's books.
And, we have syndicated you for the past seven years.
Has it been seven years?
Man, it went play fast.
It does.
I I'm having fun.
Yeah.
Thanks.
Yeah.
I like, I like keeping busy so.
You certainly do that.
This is a hilarious cartoon.
Oh, thanks.
Yeah, this was, again, quite fun.
I, I guess, uh, the bigger and the crazier the caricature, the more fun it is.
So, and,
and, uh, putting lipstick on the pig is what they do just every day on
Fox, especially this Greg Gutfeld who's supposed to be their comedian,
but there's nothing funny about Fox.
Yeah.
I can't remember what he had said there.
Um, this was, I don't know how many years ago.
Well, it doesn't matter what he said, because it's just
what he does every day.
Yeah,
yeah.
No, it's, uh, even, even Fox is, is, uh, sometimes, uh, challenging
Trump now, which is surprising.
So.
Well, I think that's wonderful and, I like what you've done with Trump's complexion.
I think cartoonists don't do a whole lot with complexions, and we
really should, you know, that's a, that's a great area for expression.
Well, you have, you know, no color around the eyes, which I've, I've
noticed some things that, in this one particular that I, I also tend
to do like the real rosy cheeks.
I don't actually use a lot of orange and then the lack of color, or I do like
a. More of a violent pink, pinkish hue.
Okay.
On the eyes, because he doesn't, he just, he forgets to put the, the makeup,
you know, he can't put a up his eyes.
I, I always think that looks so strange.
It's like a beacon coming from his eyes, you know, that's like
the light and gray white eyes.
Yeah.
So,
well, you know, very often he leaves his ears out.
The ears are pink and they've got a little bit around them.
Right.
And you can see the, the edges down the neck.
And then I notice on some days it's like he had somebody do his makeup.
And all of those places that I'm used to seeing missed are,
are covered.
They've gotten him, I've, I've also seen him miss.
The top of his forehead, right under his, hair.
It's pink along there.
But I think thinking that his hair will cover that up, but then
when he has the makeup person do it, there's nothing missed.
And he also gets the white, around the eyes, the makeup person.
There's that famous photo where it's windy in, his hair is blowing
back, and it's, it's just hilarious.
That, that makes me laugh every time I see it.
So
Dave, do
you color in Photoshop with different layers or how do you color
it?
Um, well, I used to do straight ahead traditional watercolor,
but then I found a program that kind of mimics it called Painter.
So I find, um, it, it's a lot faster.
So, and you can play around with it a lot more.
So, but I still prefer the, the watercolor.
How about you, Adam?
I think you do use traditional right?
Watercolor.
I, well, I would love to do.
Watercolor and I, I, it's like I have at one point, but not on a daily basis.
Right.
I actually used to use Painter and then, the last two years or
so, I've been using Procreate.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I've heard good things about that too.
So, yeah,
I, my big advantage or my, what I like about it the most is that I can, I'm
drawing right on the image mm-hmm.
On the iPad, you know, with, I had a big tablet.
For painter and Painter is great.
You can create all kinds of textures and you know, mm-hmm.
Painting purposes.
But, but, but having that disconnect of drawing on the tablet and looking at the
screen, I just love to be able to draw.
I think Steve Sack turned me on to Procreate, and it's,
uh, I've loved it ever since.
Oh, okay.
Cool.
Yeah.
I'm gonna try that one.
So for sure.
You can't tell the difference though.
I, I would as would've assumed You did straight watercolor, so, looks great.
I, I,
that's great to hear.
Yeah.
We will look at Adam's cartoons in just a second.
So, uh, Dave, here he is as, uh, as a skunk.
Pepe le Pew.
Yeah.
Yeah, this, um, this was back when he was first saying, uh, you know, we're
gonna make Canada the 51st state, and he wouldn't kind of take no for an answer.
So I thought this, this kind of summed it up perfectly, and I was sort of
going back and looking at all the old Pepe le Pew cartoons just to, you
know, get the quotes right in that I thought it's amazing that that actually
was allowed to run, you know, back then things have changed quite a bit.
The, what they could do in cartoons back then, those are wonderful cartoons.
It's like sexual harassment kids, right?
So, Adam, Adam, we're up to you now.
And this is not watercolor, huh?
This is, uh, Procreate?
Procreate, yeah.
Um, it's just more of a, I think because I love the more muted,
uh, color palette, but they, yeah.
In Procreate you can, customize some of the textures, the
paper textures and the brushes.
So.
I've played around with it over the, the first year I tried it.
And, um, I, I've gotten pretty happy with it and I'll, I'll be very like,
kind of liberal with it and quick and just throw it in big blotches and
then I'll kind of come back and erase.
I'll go, I kind of do it in reverse.
but yeah, my, my Trump complexion, I usually have like two or three
layers with, you know, four or five colors with his skin.
it just, it's fun to layer, you know, and then I you know, I try to give
a little white space by his hairline there, if you see like, where you miss
some makeup every once in a while.
Mm-hmm.
But yeah, I think the key is I, I tend to overdo, so I'm, my constant goal
is to stop and weave some white space.
like you can see the scales.
Like I just start going and I like to draw detail, so, um, I gotta force myself.
That's why backgrounds are no, no good for me.
I'd rather just keep it to like a vignette or knock out, um,
and then use some watercolor.
That's a great looking cartoon.
That works.
Thanks.
And here he is as, uh, the sow.
Oh yeah.
This,
uh, more of a pink hue for the complexion.
This one, this one was taken down a couple times on Facebook.
Oh, really?
Because it was on, it was, you know, it was drawn after the insurrection.
And, um, I th my guess is that's, you know, they were really pushing back on.
some of these phrases and imagery.
So then it could be the noose or, or the phrase stop the steal.
Um, I'm not sure, like could have been AI grabbing this stuff, but, or I have,
you know, a healthy following of haters and people that just report me too.
So it, I think
that's what happened.
I think they get a report, they just,
yeah.
I challenged it and it did, it did get restored, but then it went down again.
I've got four Facebook pages and I have things taken down occasionally, but
it's always on only one page because I think the people, they looked at
one page and the one guy complained.
It's good to have backups though.
Uh, here you've got the doggy Trump chewing up the constitution.
That's very nice.
Yeah, he's got jowls, you know, works with a, with a, with a
pig and works with a bulldog.
So it's, it was a natural fit.
Um, I. And I have, I have, I've had French bulldogs as pets, so
I'm always a fond of the Bulldog.
Yeah, that's a fantastic drawing.
Love that one,
wonderful drawing.
So Adam, you draw for the Buffalo News at New York.
You've won the Pulitzer Prize at a ton of other prizes and we have
syndicated you for the past 18 years,
. That's just depressing thinking about that, how much time just
doesn't mean anything right now.
No, but that's, it's been an honor and it's been, it's been awesome.
Um, it's been a great ride.
Um, you know, 18 years is a hell of a long time.
It is.
I don't feel that, it doesn't feel like 18 years to me.
I was gonna say eight.
You added a decade.
Well, your drawings still look young.
Thank you.
the Gremlins,
but I've, I'm a child of the eighties, so, anytime I can reference a, a movie
or, you know, film or a song that no one knows, but eighties kids, I'm all for it.
But, you know, I mean, now that I'm a dad, I've made sure my, my, you
know, my eight and my 11-year-old saw Gremlins one and two loved them.
So it just, it's too hard to,
it's important to give your kids the good cultural upbringing.
You
know, it.
And here's a very nice King Kong Trump.
So this is an old Trump.
I mean, this is, this is one of my early Trumps.
You could just tell, I think.
And yeah, this was on his, I. 2016 campaign, so.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
It was one of the, probably the first five times I've drawn 'em.
So, um, but yeah, the, the orange orangutan look was, uh, you know, I wanted
a King Kong, but I thought, you know, maybe not a gorilla, maybe an orangutan.
So it kind of tried to blend the two.
There's a lot of little details in this one, but it's always fun
to figure out how much, like David said, how much of the animal you
put in, how much of his caricature.
Mm-hmm.
And then you, it's a process and you, you know, you kind of erase and try again.
You throw some stuff at the wall, see what sticks.
Orangutan seems natural because it's orange.
Right.
But I can't recall other artists drawing him as an orangutan.
Uh, right.
The drum is a, a, a gorilla or a chimp.
Right.
I think Bill, Bill Maher got sued for, uh.
depicting, uh, wasn't it is was either his dad and mom were, orangutans or something.
Oh, no way.
Do you guys remember that?
Yes.
What, what, why, who sued him?
An orangutan.
Uh, Trump.
Trump, yeah.
The
orangutans sued him for being portray as Trump.
Right?
That would, that would
be more fitting.
So, Bill, we're up to you here.
You've got the Trump virus, and the Trump virus is bigotry and a mosquito.
Okay?
Yeah.
He, he, he spreads the, the disease quite quick, quickly, and freely.
I. So I just,
this is, this is a very nice one.
It's the octopus and he's, uh, holding eight cats.
So what was going on here when,
when, well it was, you know, grabbing by the pussy, you
know, that's that sort of thing.
Oh yeah.
I always try to get cartoonists, not to put dates on their cartoons,
but sometimes if it has a date, I would understand it better.
Right.
Got a good hair geometry game with your Trump.
Very, very, you know, you got all the different, you can build
it in three dimensions, I feel.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Here you have, growling doggy trump passing the baton.
Yeah.
Is pretty much the bulldog Look again here.
It's very accurate.
Well, Bill, you come to us from Florida.
You've worked for many years as the cartoonist for the Memphis Commercial
Appeal and the Detroit Free Press, and we have syndicated you for the past 14 years.
Wow.
Okay.
Well, thank you Daryl.
I'm glad somebody still wants me.
All right here.
You have a lovely snake, Florida's invasive species.
Yeah.
He swallowed the whole thing.
Uh, you could certainly check out what he had for dinner.
Right.
Well, in Florida we have a real problem with, with, uh, pythons.
So it went well with Florida.
Florida stuff.
Mm-hmm.
You know, they, they have a, a hunt down on the Everglades
for, for pythons all the time.
This is a lovely one.
Oh yeah.
Yep.
Gotta go for
the gold.
Yeah.
The gold's good.
The cash symbols and the S's.
Yeah.
Yep.
See, I would, I would've avoided that one.
Just be for doing, having to draw that type in in perfectly stars.
Yeah.
And the stars too.
Yeah.
Oh man.
Yeah.
Well it was fun
to
draw.
Oh, he did a good job.
here, I guess he was gonna have a debate with DeSantis and uh, the fish is funny.
This is
an angler fish.
Yeah,
that's who he is.
The angler.
That's a great idea too.
That was during the debates, I'm assuming, but it's nice, nice pun too.
So.
Very good.
Did all of you guys see that it was an angler fish?
I always know that, 'cause I've drawn Trump as an angler fish, so I'm not a,
you know, I don't, I don't know that much.
He, he, he definitely draws people in with his lies.
You guys really are the animal experts.
So here's what I did with, uh, Trump and Putin and he
does seem to be Putin's doggie
and this was what he was facing off with Mexico, one of the times
that he was facing off with Mexico.
I love the Mexican eagle.
Yeah, the Mexican eagle just has so much fun stuff going on around it.
Totally.
Yeah.
The hair, that's all you need is the hair there, you know,
nice drawing too with the, the way they're just the whole, uh, uh,
vignettes night a nice, uh, feel to it.
So composition's great.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, thank
you.
Yeah, and I did this on the, on the first term debate with, with Biden when
Biden was doing a little bit better.
And uh, it's just fun to draw him as a big dinosaur.
I like the
no nose.
Yeah.
The decision to leave the nose out.
Dinosaurs don't really have noses.
No, I mean, you could, again, when you're combining him, you could add a nose, but
that would be his, not the dinosaurs.
Mm-hmm.
But no nose is all the rage that Big City Green.
My kids love that show.
It's Simpsons Without Noses.
I don't know if you've seen that.
Oh, yeah,
yeah, yeah.
I haven't seen that one.
It's, it's
like
a Simpsons with no noses
This is one of my favorites, Daryl, I love that he's peeing all over the planet.
All over the,
you know, I, this was an old cartoon and I had to update it because I didn't
have any puddles on Canada or Greenland.
Yeah, he's got it all covered now, I think.
So he does back Daryl.
You gotta keep adding, adding puddles over time.
So here's a dinosaur Trump where uh, he does have a nose I think a
dinosaur can sport a nose pretty well.
I like how he's been accidentally hitting his tail.
Yeah.
That's great detail.
I love Boligan's work.
Yeah.
Really nice drawing.
This is Angel Boligan from, uh, Mexico City.
I. Yeah.
And another one from Angel here, here he is as King Kong and he
doesn't even need to be an ape.
Yeah, no, I, I think it's better that way with, with the suit and everything, so,
yeah.
And this one comes from Cam Cardow also up in Canada.
Great hair, like the, the detail and all the mm-hmm.
The fur.
Yeah.
Doesn't it just make you wanna shave it?
Yeah.
That's a lot of, a lot of detail.
Or here's this one's from Christo Komarnitsky in Bulgaria, and,
I think that's very nice, the bombs and the dove and it Great.
His expression from
the children's book quality.
Yeah, yeah,
yeah.
I like the way he draws Putin because Putin , has changed from
looking like a bond villain to looking like this, inflated little.
Plump round headed thing.
Big cheeks.
Yeah.
We have to change with that.
And I think, a lot of cartoonists struggle with their Putin's.
Pretty tricky.
Here's another Trump eating, an elephant, and he is an elephant eating an elephant.
I just hear the slurp sound.
I guess eating the elephant is the gag.
It doesn't really matter what kind of animal he is.
I
like the tail, the tail with the hair in the back.
yeah.
You know, it just goes underneath that blanket.
And, here he is as the, dog with the cone.
I can't think of what was happening here.
He must have been restrained about saying probably
his first term.
Yeah.
I'm guessing his first term
he's gotten rid, he's gotten rid of the restraint now.
Yeah.
And here he is with Putin.
Oh, that's great.
Um, if Putin didn't have the blood on his hand, I think
this would've gotten reprinted.
Hmm.
I like the blood, but Yeah, I, I see what you're saying.
We all love blood.
You know, cartoonists love blood, but we just, yeah, it just kills our cartoons.
Editors don't, don't like blood, that's for sure.
Does your editor talk to you about not liking blood?
my previous editor, yes.
Uh, had, had specifically not like blood.
Yeah.
I was too gory, icky, um, like, you know, in terms of war.
So I would get away with as much as I could.
I, it's not like I wanted to throw tons of gore in cartoons, but if it's
a, if it's about you know, a brutal, war scene, if that's just called for,
or, or a sim, you know, if you're sim using for symbolism, then yeah.
editors also don't like peeing.
Bill, I remember when you left your last job and you talked about how, you
could never draw any pee in anything, and then for like a few months you
were drawing peeing on everything.
You were, you were freed from your, your, uh, your peeing prison.
It was unleashed.
Yeah.
How was it in Canada or the taste different in terms of the readers or
the editors With that kind of thing?
With like potty humor or with, with blood or war?
Uh,
yeah.
It's hard to say.
Like, um, the editorial cartoons, there's not a ton of papers that run editorial
cartoons as much anymore, but, uh, I think we're probably less offended by that.
I would go Yeah.
Or like aligned with like, like a British kind.
Like the British Yeah.
Sort of.
Yeah.
But I think you were saying Daryl too, that, uh, almost any bodily
fluids are, are, aren't good at cartoons like snot or even drool.
I think you were saying that they
cartoonists just, just love bodily fluids.
We love all of 'em.
Right.
I, when you asked about my editor, there was a cartoon with, uncle Sam that had
the alien, coming out of his chest or stomach and how do you draw that without
drawing some kind of fluids, you know?
Yeah.
I mean, you just can't get around it.
Did they complain about that?
No, I just, I just knew I, I had to be a little minimal
about it and, and it was fine.
I think every once in a great while it was my previous editor, she would just
remind me that, you know, she didn't kill a cartoon ever because of it, but
she just didn't wanna see a ton of it.
Mm-hmm.
Well, this is, uh, this is another lovely one from Christo.
Trump is a walrus and I love the complexion on him, on his butt.
I think cartoonists should just take more liberty with complexions.
You're gonna get a lot of complexion cartoons this week, Daryl.
We thinking about those colors
in his front, but not everywhere else.
I'll bet the, the editors don't like complexions as well, but,
we've never gotten a specific complaint about a complexion.
I think if you're doing it, a politician is an animal, then there's
more reason to have the complexion.
But if it's just them doing a day-to-day thing, I think people would wonder,
why, why does he have all these, aging marks on his face or whatever, you
know, so that could be part of it.
Pustules.
I like pustules.
Yeah.
Pustules.
That, that's the word I was looking for.
Another good bodily fluid that we don't take enough advantage of.
and here's a lovely Pat Bagley, Trump pig.
Great.
Yeah.
The hair, the ears is the hair.
That's really good.
Yeah.
Here he is as Jabba the hut.
I think job of the hut is an animal.
Imaginary a creature.
I don't know.
Mm-hmm.
It qualifies.
Good.
Good looking, good looking Jabba the hut.
Trump,
when I first started out at cartooning for you, Daryl, I did a
Jabba the hut with, uh, Trump, and I thought, that's just going too far.
I can't, I better not send that in.
And now you see it.
There it is.
Yeah.
Tons of people have done it, so,
yeah.
You know, people, people love the Star Wars metaphors, I noticed.
Yeah.
I noticed those, uh, getting used, uh, more than others.
They love it.
They love, they love any kind of movie metaphor, but, uh, star
Wars, oh, their heart is there.
Uh, here's a Trump chicken crossing the road, from, John Darkow.
that's a lovely Trump chicken crossing the road.
It's, it's, it,
it's got style.
It's funky.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
John Darko is really good with the layouts.
Like the, just how he positioned the chicken there and everything.
It's um, like Right.
You can tell he really understands composition
camera right on the road, you know?
Yeah.
Is that Missouri?
it's the chicken, the Shape of Missouri.
Oh.
Maybe I was wondering what, what the shape was.
Yeah, yeah.
It looked intentional.
I mean,
that would make sense.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
Here, here is a nice big Darkow, uh, orange Trump, Godzilla.
I think he's looking great.
Mm-hmm.
Vicious set of teeth there.
Wow.
and I think he uses mostly, uh, pencil crayons Right.
To do his, uh, rendering.
So that, that you're going Yeah, he,
he's, he's drawing in colored pencils on textured paper.
There are no computer for him.
My hand.
Yeah.
That's cool.
You're gonna be using The Sharper a lot for that one.
'cause he's, how many pencils did he go through there?
So,
well, you know, I think there's something charming about just
doing it in colored pencil.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
And nobody else is doing it.
No, it's true.
another lovely colored pencil, Trump dinosaur, T-Rex
this time I guess, is that.
Hmm.
Maybe it's, uh, velociraptor.
Cold-blooded crime family.
Well, that's great.
The orange made that one wonderful.
So here he is as, an elephant on the lawn of democracy.
The lady in the house says, why do we get the same wide elephant gift every year?
That's funny.
It's an interesting color choice.
How we kind of, we the elephant, I mean, white elephant, but,
but just the pink sky like that.
Mm-hmm.
I feel like there's choices that I wouldn't have made, and I like
it because of that, you know?
Yeah.
You know those pencils that have every color in them and, you kind of have
to twist it to get a different color.
That's what he did in the sky here.
He's got the every color pencil.
oh.
Okay.
Yeah.
Huh.
It's funky.
Yeah.
I know what you mean.
Adam.
I probably would've filled the back run with dark color or
something to pop the right open off, but I, I, I agree with you.
I like what he did there, so.
The leopards eating people's faces.
Party would never eat my face, would they?
That's funny.
Blood.
Yeah, the blood,
she's, oh yeah.
Yeah.
so here is Dario Castillejos from Oaxaca, Mexico, who's been
with us for about 14 years.
And, this is lovely.
Yeah.
I love it.
You don't have to just have a head where somebody's head is.
You can have three quarters of him.
I notice most of his cartoons rarely have any wording on it.
Just the, the image tells a story.
So, and really kind of bold graphic images too.
Very, very nicely done.
Yeah.
And, this one comes from Hajo de Reijger in the Netherlands.
I think he's just got a very, very disrespectfulness Trump and
the disrespectful makes me laugh.
Yeah.
just the bagginess around his face.
Trump would hate it.
Yeah.
That's the measure.
You know, you can tell he would hate it by looking at it.
It's a nice juicy worm too.
Yeah.
Dumbo, you got a lot of references in there.
It's nice.
Yeah.
He's about to gobble up his little MAGA supporter.
Yeah,
that's great.
Feeding him worms.
Yeah.
A steady diet.
It's a great cartoon.
Yeah.
And, here's another one from Hajo.
He's got, uh, big orange sea creature Trump, , he needs a bigger boat.
what kind of creature is this?
He's got particles on him.
a, an orange whale,
giant sea slug.
I don't know.
I see some kind of sea monster or something, but yeah.
Whatever it is.
I like it.
Right.
Yeah.
We don't, we don't need to know what it does
on the surface.
Maybe there's some tentacles.
Maybe it's not a giant squid.
We to Yeah.
I
love, I love the gray, barnacles and eyes.
The eyes.
Yeah.
His eyes aren't naturally, we were talking about them being white, but they're
almost kind of a gray, like you can kind of see what his actual skin color is.
Didn't have the
Right, it's like a whack of pigment.
It's, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
This one comes to us from Kap in Barcelona and it's all about the poop.
That's nice too.
I think that's another one you can't do, right?
The poop.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I, I think, I think an editor might look at this and just see the chicken maybe.
Yeah.
Do you guys do poop cartoon?
I mean, can you get away with poop cartoons?
They
don't like,
they don't like poop.
Well,
uh, Daryl, are, are Europeans allowed a little more leeway and
something like this than American?
Oh, a lot more leeway.
I mean, I'm jealous of the Europeans I had.
It's not, we think about the French and the British doing crazy stuff, but
they all do the, the, all the ones in Holland, we've got more cartoonists
from Holland than any other country except United States and they draw
all kinds of stuff we can't get
away with.
I
had a friend from Holland who always encouraged me to, to draw,
birds the finger all the time.
Oh.
She said it goes well in Holland.
Oh, flipping the bird.
Yeah.
They like that in Holland?
My editors would not like that.
I got one, I got one cartoon that's like that.
It was a, it was an oil rig, um, offshore, and it was like a
middle finger, but it was subtle enough where it wasn't that bad.
I guess.
It wasn't somebody's head.
It was the hand of big oil.
Oh, okay.
I back to the poop thing too.
I think I've gotten away with drawing the poop emoji, but if
it's anything else other than that, then, then it's usually a no-no.
I actually had Trump as poop with the golden, the golden most.
I got away with, um, the Wall Street Golden Bull and Oh yeah.
Was like curly hair was almost like, oh, the,
that's perfect.
Yeah.
Just his face.
It was almost emoji like where it was, you know, you know, that kind
of soft serve kind of, you know.
Mm-hmm.
The swirl on top.
Yeah.
Here's a, here's a classic Steve Sack.
Wonderful Trump bird.
Wonderful Trump lie.
Wonderful baby birds.
Yeah.
I love Steve Sack stuff.
It's uh
oh
yeah.
Fantastic.
Wonderful.
Liz Chaney.
Great expressions.
Oh, that's great.
Here's another nice looking Trump presidential seal.
Throw 'em out.
Brass knuckles,
little bit of blood.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Get away with that.
And here he is as a big fat kitty.
Uh, eating the Hillary email scandal.
Catnip, this is an oldie, but it's just so nice.
yeah, it's great.
Great vibrant colors.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And the catnip, he's bitten through the bags.
I mean, that's all wonderful.
It was a drug to him.
And this is lovely.
He's just a little hint of pig.
This
is excellent.
Like just the way he modeled his skin, like under his ear, like that.
Mm-hmm.
So good.
I like the choice of cutting the face off as well, so the, you know.
Yep.
Yeah.
Makes it stronger.
Totally.
I
should say I have 135.
Trump has an animal cartoons here, which is a lot, you know, a good,
a good chunk of them are your cartoons 'cause you did so many.
but, there are a lot of Trump as an and animal cartoons.
This is the 135 best.
I mean, if I'd included not quite the best, we'd have had a huge number.
This is a nice looking cartoon from Taylor Jones.
And, Taylor Jones is a, naturalist and he loves drawing birds.
And, this is just great.
Yeah.
You can tell he has a knowledge of the type of birds and everything, which, uh,
most people just sort of cartoonized them, but he's, he went all out in that one.
There is a, a lot of, uh, Trump eating elephants.
I, I like it when Taylor, gives just a sketch and doesn't, doesn't go through
to, make it as tight as he usually does.
Oh, it's a very nice, he's wonderful about sketches.
I think sometimes sketches are stronger than the, the finished art.
You know, like you, something, you draw on your sketchbook and you look
at it and you can't quite capture it When it's, uh, you, you tighten it up.
So
it's a looser, yeah.
Yeah.
Yep.
This is a, a beautiful trump pig.
Very nice.
And another gorgeous trump pig.
This was when he just won Iowa
Great pig slash trump eyes.
Yeah.
And the mud is fun.
Here's one I did years ago, back when Trump was doing Twitter.
Oh yeah.
I missed that Twitter bird.
You know, the Twitter bird was wonderful.
Mm-hmm.
So much better to draw than this X.
Yeah, I know, I know.
I mean, I've had a little bit of fun with the X, but yeah.
Yeah.
I like the combination of the flat, you know, two dimensional and the modeled.
Mm-hmm.
Fun characters and gross puke in this.
It's nice.
Editors don't like puke.
Makes it, it makes it, makes it interesting.
I mean, I don't know.
I always like.
Would that remember Ren and Stimpy and you know, when they would Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Those disgusting bits.
Like that was like, you know, that was my creativity, my childhood.
Like, you know, it's inspiring me, I knew I was gonna draw
gross details when I grew up
watching it.
Yeah.
it's funny 'cause uh, the stuff you see on TV, it's allowable, but it
seems like newspapers were back in time where things aren't allowed as much.
Like, you, you can't get away with it as much in the newspaper as about 30 culture
everywhere,
you know?
So about 30 years ago I did a comic strip in Britain and, uh, it ran in
their national TV guide called TV Times.
And, I would do things once in a while, like I would have somebody throw up
in a cartoon and boy did I hear back in no certain uncertain terms that
that was very disgusting and we just could not have that, And I would make
all kinds of other cultural mistakes.
I had a depressed wife sitting eating out of a can of ice cream.
We don't have cans of ice cream.
It was hard.
I could see why our, our foreign cartoonists, uh, have a little bit of
trouble crossing the border over to us.
Well, Daryl, I think sometimes you just have to draw a cartoon
whether you know it's gonna run or not, just 'cause you have to do it.
Mm-hmm.
This is true.
So, Adam, we've got a few more from you here.
You've got shark Trump,
man, that's beautiful.
It is nice.
Yeah.
All the, you know, just the little, little details of the,
of decomposed birther leftovers.
It's always the most fun to draw little details like that.
I like how your colors are so light and Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm sure this heavys up when it's printed and it just looks very nice.
Thank you.
Uh mm-hmm.
Yeah, because if you'd done it heavier, it would be a little harder
to know what it would look like.
But this is gonna print very nicely.
This is, well this is 2020 and you could, there's a few in here, I think,
coming up, even when I just started adding color and it was all heavy and
I wouldn't, I wasn't printing in color.
And that's part of why, why it was heavy.
It was just for online.
And, I wasn't using a Mac too.
So like the co the screen differences.
And over the years, especially since printing in color, I've gotten whiter
and whiter and whiter and wanted the lines to just carry it through.
But there's about eight months of my work that I kind of cringe at
when I first started adding color.
'cause it was, at the time I was just playing with it and experimenting
and it was, it was too heavy.
I think there's one or two of them in here.
But
yeah, I know with watercolor, I find when you work digitally, it's backlit,
so you have to account for that.
'cause once it's printed, sometimes it gets, looks saturated and too dark.
So I, I have to always remind myself of that.
Well, here you have Trump as a wasp, um, spreading the,
the covid in the rose garden.
That's really very nice.
Mm-hmm.
I like drawing little Trump heads, you know, like where you, it
forces you to simplify your, your trump, your caricature mm-hmm.
Into just a couple of key features.
But I sit, and I always, and one thing I do, I think different than
others is like, he's got sometimes these heavy rosy cheekbones and
I tend to go heavy on those.
Um, but there's times where I'm just like, he must, I don't know,
put some extra blush on there.
Um, it just catches, catches the shadow.
Right.
Yeah.
Wonder how long he spends getting ready in the morning, you know,
he's gotta get the hair and then the spray tan and, oh my gosh.
Well, I think it's,
I think it's very obvious when he has somebody else doing his makeup.
Yeah.
It's very interesting.
There's Twitter bird could have pops bright or blue in the Twitter
bird here, but you know, I, I like the, I like muted colors.
It's kind of fond of it.
I,
I think they're very nice.
Yeah, that looks good.
It disappears.
I do miss that Twitter bird.
You know, that was a very, strong trademark character and I think the.
The company lost a lot of value when he made it X. Mm-hmm.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
We've all done Energizer Bunnies.
Mm-hmm.
Um, but, but you know, people love it every time you do.
It's, yeah.
It's one of those cultural references that it just touches so many people in
terms of, you instantly remember, all those commercials and just, it's just fun.
You know, anytime you can kind of cross into a different world
with your, with your work, it's, uh, adds a fun element to it.
I miss, I like these white, the cartoons with the white space too.
I'm looking at my work like I gotta weave more white.
Here's the Gadsden flag.
Trump snake.
Oh yeah.
I fed.
They never did end up fleeing from him.
They did not.
M aybe this was just an optimistic cartoon.
We kind of hoped they would.
I feel like every couple years it feels like, you know, throughout each
of his terms, you just, there's like moments where you're like, this is it.
You're, and you hear reports of, cracks in the GOP.
Like they won't describe their name to it, but you, you think, when is gonna,
when is it gonna be the straw that'll break the camel's back, but, mm-hmm.
Well, that seems like what, CNN and M-S-N-B-C are on
talking about all the time.
Is this one gonna get the Republicans finally to do something?
Are they gonna stand up for this and they don't?
Well, I think if January 6th, if he made it through that, who knows
what it's, it would take now.
So, you know, they seem to be fully in his pocket.
Tortoise and the hare.
Oh yeah.
Optimism . I, I like that the head comprises most of his body.
He's like,
he's head with, with limbs.
Yeah.
He just kind of like a ball there.
Ball of ball flesh.
I think it's funny that Trump is nothing but a head and
wheels of justice has no head.
Right.
So Adam, tell us about, uh, Donald Ducks.
Yeah.
This was, he's stuck in the debate Okay.
In the debates.
And then I, I, you know, Chris Christie stole, stole this from me.
I, this was out there for days.
And then Chris Christie thought it would be great to call him Donald Ducks.
So I, I, I think, I'm sure several cartoonists were thinking the same
thing and had something similar, but, um, it's almost like this one, you
know, how could you not have him as a duck, I mean, with his nail like that
this was, so, I'm, I'm struggling with color on and off, and sometimes it's
too heavy because this is, when it started, we started printing in color,
the Buffalo news we never did for years.
That was just for online.
And this is when I started pulling back on the heaviness.
Yeah.
So here you have, uh, Trump, uh, eating his own GOP tail, as other
candidates throw their hats into the ring speaker hats into the ring.
See, I kind of picture this, like, if it's animated, it would just
get smaller and smaller ring.
Yeah, true.
So here is rubber ducky Trump.
Uh, gonna be a bloodbath.
He's in a MAGA hat full of blood.
How did this one go over?
Well, this, this was when my editor started talking to me about
light up on the blood, actually.
Mm-hmm.
Um, but I'm like, it's in the concept and they're like, okay, but just keep it in
mind that I don't like a lot of blood.
And I mean, this was defendable because the, it was specifically talking
about him talking about a blood bath.
Mm-hmm.
So, But, but I did get a, tap on the shoulder about it.
but yeah, I mean, I, I don't know.
I think it could have been.
It could have been way bloodier.
You could have put it splatters all over the place.
Could always, my thing is it could always be worse.
It looks like it could have come from a, a foreign cartoonist, you
know, they love pools of blood.
I just like, and this is, this is a, lovely man-eating to plant Trump.
It's not an animal,
but maybe it is.
Yeah.
It's, you know, like, again, with the eighties, I love the Little
Shop of Horrors and mm-hmm.
It's kind of loosely
Audrey
Two.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
And a lot of little fun details in there.
That's, it's always fun when you can hide a, you know, fun little, you
know, secondary messaging and Yeah.
I always worry that they look too muddy when they print.
That's, I mean, I love the muted earth tones, and I'll put in like
purples and other colors in the, um, the shadows and whatnot, but at times
it gets a little dark and print.
But I, I like how it comes out.
You know, most of my work is probably viewed on social
media and on online anyway.
Yeah.
That has a real, children's book quality to it as well.
with the, obviously the Little Shop of Horrors, but just the whole feel
of it, like the, the, especially in this face, you know, it's got
Another problem we have is that editors don't want to print KKK hats.
Yeah.
Mm.
I would imagine
you've some comments on it.
I'm sorry, my editors are fine with KK, k hats, but I do get, I do get comments.
Here's from Aaron Van Dam in the Netherlands.
It's a fun style.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Put Trump on an animal and it looks like he used a photo of Trump's actual hair.
I was wondering his hair.
Yeah.
Like wrote a stroke, like a photo of him, of his face and kind of wrote his, yeah.
Oh, that could be what it was like around it.
Yeah.
The, his mugshot.
Mm-hmm.
Which is, you know, it's funny, after the mugshot is you could see it being
incorporated more into his caricature, which before was the open mouth Trump.
The round the fish lips.
Right.
Yeah.
We're not seeing that as much anymore.
That's, the Trump Trojan horse.
That's fun.
Putin directing the troops.
That's a good one.
Trump is starting to get a little less, Putin supportive.
I think that's encouraging.
Yeah.
Especially what's going on now.
Putin's not showing up to, uh, in Turkey to, for the Peace talks, so he's starting
to get up a little upset with them.
This one's from Bart Van Lewin.
You know, Bart uses a lot of, uh, AI in his cartoons.
Yeah.
He says he does the faces himself, but, he does the rest of his cartoons in ai.
And I wonder if that, now that the cartoonists are getting more
alarmed about ai, I wonder if that's gonna be an issue for people.
But, his stuff looked just like this before AI came along.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, I guess in that case it doesn't seem as bad, but it, yeah, it's ethically.
it's a conundrum.
I have mixed feelings about it.
Mm-hmm.
So here's Pat Burnes and chicken.
Trump says, no, I can't do a virtual debate.
People need to see the real me.
That's a nice chicken.
It's a fun, yeah, it is chicken.
Yeah.
And hears all the, here he is leading the, the GOP.
That's fun.
Pat Pat's was, uh, more of a New Yorker cartoonist.
So I think he's done a nice job transitioning to the editorial.
He still has the nice feel of this previous cartoons with the
New Yorker, but he does, adds the caricatures in and it doesn't look
like it's, forced or anything.
So
the editors love the New Yorkery cartoons.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, I think the big difference between a New Yorker cartoon and
an editorial cartoon is that the New Yorker cartoons are not funny.
And they're mild too, you know?
They can be.
Depends.
Sometimes they're surprisingly not mild.
Yeah.
That's a great job.
Can we get you to say something, bill?
Yeah, I, this one right here.
I just love the Grinch's face here.
That's so beautifully done.
Oh, thank
you.
I debated
whether to make 'em green or orange, but I think people still
figured out to use the Grinch.
I didn't know if I should call the Grinch an animal.
Yeah, I think he is
very
good.
It works.
We're all animals anyway, you know.
Right.
True.
Oh, this is so lovely.
Trump
cat.
Oh, thanks.
I actually had more fun with the Bill Barr bulldog thing 'cause he is got
the, the jowels, you know, and Oh
yeah.
Great.
That's a great Barr.
Thanks.
Yeah.
So he's just
taking a nap.
It doesn't matter what goes on around him.
Yeah, I think this is back when Barr just let Trump do whatever he wanted to do,
but hey, that's time on steroids now.
Pretty much, you know, so.
Well he did that all the way through and he got a conscience when it was too late.
Yeah, right.
Yeah,
I'm not gonna give him credit for seeing the light on Trump.
No.
And here's a lovely, uh, Trump worm in McConnell Turtle.
Yeah, this is like, he, he always refers to that line about, you knew
I was a snake when you took me in.
And I, I don't think he really knows what the story means, but it's, I find it
ironic that he keeps quoting that line.
A hundred percent.
Your color on him is very nice.
Oh, thanks,
And here you have
Trump as Foghorn Leghorn.
Yeah, of course.
We all read that in his voice, don't we?
you gonna read it for us in Foghorn Leghorn voice?
I think you'd do a better job, Daryl.
I say, I say Bo, there's no need for me to go to the debate.
Why?
That's just a waste of time.
Pretty good.
See?
Nice.
You
didn't
let us down.
And, uh, good looking, cowardly lyin'.
Thank you.
I hate drawing braids and hair like that, so I don't know what I was thinking when
I came up with that idea, but those are
very good braids in hair.
Yeah, the curls are nice.
Oh, thank you.
They are, it, it's, uh, it wasn't fun though for some reason.
Like, there's certain things I love drawing and that's,
that's not one of them.
I think you did a real good job with his hair.
Oh, thank you.
I, I can understand why you wouldn't enjoy that.
You've got all the line work in there and you've got the highlights perfectly.
Thank you.
I cant consider doing one and then just repeating it, you know, so I
didn't have to draw the whole thing, but hey, I, I wasn't lazy on this one.
So
you got it right.
Looking good.
Thank you.
Trump as an albatross.
Yeah.
So this, so this one was again, where you can see I've, I've
pretty much repeated the one below.
Try to make it work with his face.
And I think it worked out okay.
and then the others, you can see the squad.
We have some of them it's hard to see at that size, but, I forget
who I ended up putting in there.
This is when I switched people.
I, at first, I didn't print this right away, and then as time went on, the people
changed, so I had to keep going back in and adding different caricatures in there.
So had, when the
squad changed.
Yeah.
Like, well
different people who are causing problems.
So, yeah.
So I have Tlaib and AOC and I think I, I wasn't specific on this one as
to, to who was actually in there.
Now Frankenstein is not an animal.
This is, he would be like,
yeah, if, if you're calling creatures animals, he could be, I dunno.
Well I love the moon behind Biden.
That's great.
Thanks.
It's a nice Biden.
Yeah.
And Bill, we've got some more from you.
Here's okay.
Debate Blowfish Trump.
Yeah.
There's a playoff and a debate.
There we
go.
Lipstick on a pig.
He has a pig nose.
Yep.
There's
the pig.
Putin riding Elephant orange Trump.
Yep.
So yeah, I had, I had, a lot of fun drawing this, uh, this orange
elephant and with Putin on his back.
I remember when that fly was on Mike Pence's head and that was Oh yeah.
A wonderful thing.
That was a gift to cartoonists everywhere.
I don't want
It was,
yeah.
We've all got a Pence fly cartoon somewhere.
Right?
It's great.
Here's your lame duck.
Good looking lame duck.
And your Donald Duck.
And you do have your apologies to Disney.
Yeah, I just noticed that.
Oh yeah.
There you go.
And your elephant turning into Trump, MAGA-Morphosis
I try to sometimes do a metamorphosis kind of theme where it starts
off with one and it, it just transitions into another image.
So that was what I was trying to do, just trying to draw
an elephant look like Trump.
So you felt at the beginning there were not MAGA,
the key to it was a MAGA-morphosis instead of metamorphosis.
Mm-hmm.
So they were not MAGA in the beginning and it took them some time to change.
Yeah.
This is a good example of what we were talking about is like how
much nose to add or how much trunk to, to add in the caricature.
So you sort of showed all the stages there.
It's, yeah.
And a great caption too.
MAGA-morphosis.
Mm-hmm.
And, Foghorn Leghorn.
Yeah.
Here's here, there, here he is.
Yeah.
Good.
I enjoyed doing Vance here too.
So.
Are you comfortable with the two to
I
said kid, I said kid.
All right.
Uh, here's another two toed, Trump Bird, voice of America.
he's, he's gotten rid of the Voice of America.
Yeah.
When he, when he fired the Voice of America, you know, and he is turning
it over, making it right wing.
I thought like time to do something in Voice of America.
So that's what I came up with
when I first saw that.
I was thinking you were saying, cool, cool.
Like from January 6th, but, but then I realized it's,
uh, for Voice of America, so
very nice.
Venus fly trap, lie trap.
Kangaroo court.
He had plenty of problems in court, and then he has none at all.
He did the most successful, uh, defense.
You would never know that from watching the news.
They were talking about how doom was just about on his doorstep
and, he's about to get his now, and they couldn't have been more wrong.
He just, you think he had no trouble dealing with it at all.
Like a year ago now is when all the trials were going on, and they said,
well, this is it for him, but somehow he just keeps bouncing on back.
How often do the pundits have to be wrong for us to stop believing in the pundits
for them to fill up the news every day with pundits that get everything wrong?
I fall for it all the time.
So,
yeah.
He's, he is rewritten all
the rules, I think.
Yeah, for sure.
Trump, the pundits were, uh, would've been more accurate with any other politician.
Well, this is another example of how he brow beats everybody trying to get
the, the court to, uh, go his way.
So.
Mm-hmm.
I think it works to some degree, because I think they're afraid of him
Here you have it with Vladimir Putin.
Oh, Vlad, right?
He, yeah, he, I remember right here I was thinking about,
he was pretending how he, uh.
had an eye for Harris and Waltz, which of course was intended to
backfire on them and help Trump.
Mm-hmm.
And here's Rivers drawing him as, Moby Dick.
Great Orange whale.
We get Moby Dick cartoons every so often and I think they're always very funny.
Here is, Shooty," Martin Syskovec in, Slovakia, drawing a big orange
Godzilla Trump, holding his Bible.
That's a wonderful cartoon.
Bumpy skin is nice.
Mm-hmm.
Great looking cartoon.
The fire is nice.
Yeah.
Complexion.
Yeah.
This one comes from, this is from Emad Hajaj.
Our cartoon is from Jordan who moved to Virginia.
And, I guess it's Trump as a mandrill with the nose tie.
Um, and he's pooping on the world.
This is,
he's funny.
Great cartoon.
It's so graphic.
Are those his hands forming his little orange mouth.
And did you see the monkeys in the zeros of a hundred days?
Like, little interesting details here, huh?
Yeah.
Is I think it's his hands.
Like, I can't tell.
Yeah.
It's hard to say.
His butt is funny.
Yeah.
And here is, Biden leading Elephant Trump hair.
That's cute.
Mm-hmm.
The Velociraptor from Jurassic World has just taken down liberty.
It's interesting how they made his, uh, hair the, the eyes or the face of the.
Velociraptor.
Oh, this one.
Oh, this one?
Yeah, that one.
Yeah.
And his face is sort of the neck part.
Well, that's, I think this is red Maga hat.
Oh, okay.
That's what that is.
Yeah.
Sorry, I missed that.
Yeah.
So, uh, could you explain this one to us, Bill?
Uh,
yeah.
We, we see peace coming out the, out, out, out the tail end for sure.
Alright.
That's the short explanation.
I love the use of the, uh, the feathers is the hair and then the, the butt and legs
are just perfect, you know, like all bird
Yeah.
For his face.
Yeah.
Like with the, the little dimples from where the feathers
were,
it made me laugh.
Yeah.
Very, very good.
I like that little white part under.
The tail feathers were his eyes, uh, would be.
Mm-hmm.
It's, it's a nice, yeah.
purple, the purple lips.
Here's
yet another one from very nice.
Trump in China cartoon.
I love doing The Dragons.
Yeah.
Trump is as Jaws
interesting choice to put his mouth.
Yeah, I was just thinking that.
Yeah.
Usually, uh, I think I may have drawn a Jaws one with his actual
mouth, but that's, that works.
So.
So here you've got, Bob Englehart with a Trump Snake.
I love the Trump snakes.
is this a, Pence fly cartoon?
Might be, yeah.
But the, flies are funny.
That's a funny fly too.
But the Mount mm-hmm.
It's a nice cartoony fly.
Dave Granland with, octopus Trump trying to woo women
voters into this all Tic-Tacs.
That's funny.
Yeah.
The tic-tac thing is funny.
Trump's the fish.
Trump the fish
again.
This is Marian Kamensky from Austria.
His work is nice.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
It is nice.
It's distinct.
I, I like that you can see it and you know, it's his work right away.
Mm-hmm.
Trump and Giuliani.
Turkeys.
Peter Kuper, weirder and weirder.
Cheshire Cat.
Nice.
Here's Luo Jie from China.
Here's Graham Mackay, our new Canadian cartoon.
Canadian.
Yeah.
That far.
I think
he's just great.
Yeah.
Same
agree.
Yeah.
I'm a fan of his work.
That's great.
And again, you can tell it's his, from looking at it right
away, you know, it's his work.
So
Yeah.
He's got a lot of, a lot of time puts into, into the lighting and mm-hmm.
He gets a good atmosphere to his, to his for sure.
He has an interesting color palette too, that's kind of unique.
Yep.
these are our new, uh.
Conservative cartoonists, Margolis and Cox.
So does, does one write in one draw, or how does that work?
Yeah.
Margolis writes and Cox draws.
I, I love the, their drawing there.
The drawing is quite nice.
I've noticed them.
Here's, Rick McKee with, Trump as a, growth on the back of I figure the growth
is animal as well, so I put this in.
Mm-hmm.
Good.
I think it's a good looking growth.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
I like the roots.
Right.
That, that makes it like veiny roots.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
And this is from Stephane Peray, "Stephff" Our cartoonist from Thailand.
Oh,
alien Trump.
Bruce Plante Turkey of the Year.
More Bruce Plante, king Kong.
Good looking orangutan this is Plop and Kankr from France.
husband and wife and, Plop does the drawings and Kankr does the writing.
That's lovely.
Mm-hmm.
Style.
I've seen children's books with that kind of vibe.
I like that
you met Plop and Kankr in St. Just
Oh, that's right.
Okay.
I'm like, not connecting the, the na the work to the artist.
Very nice.
They are very nice.
They're a cute couple.
This one, this is an oldie from Milt Priggee.
Another Audrey Two.
Good looking Trump.
Mm-hmm.
Milt Priggee with a Trump chicken.
This one is from Rayma Suprani, the, Venezuelan cartoonist who moved to Miami.
And from Rivers, a nice King Kong, Trump.
Mm-hmm.
From Bas van der Schot, from the Netherlands.
Another nice King Kong, Trump with a, , Denmark Little Mermaid that he's,
uh, got in his hand, which is funny.
Yeah.
I don't know that an American audience would look at that, recognize the
Denmark flag and recognize that that's their little Mermaid statue.
But, when you do, it makes you laugh.
This one comes from Osmani Simanca
Hmm.
That's cool.
I like them.
Yeah.
That's a nice one.
Nice drawing.
Good lack of respect in this one.
Mm-hmm.
This one's from Vladimir Kazanevsky, our Ukrainian cartoonist.
He fled Ukraine for Slovakia, during the worst of the bombing, which came
pretty close to his apartment and he has recently decided to move back.
Hmm.
Wow.
John Cole with Porcupine Trump.
Nice.
And woodpecker Trump.
And another nice skunk Trump and brain worm.
RFK Trump.
And here is Dale Cummings.
Another nice Canadian cartoonist with a golden Poop Trump.
I like
that.
Mm-hmm.
That's our last cartoon, gentlemen.
Very nice.
That was all 135.
That was, that went by fast.
That, yeah.
135 is a heck of a lot of
cartoons.
Mm-hmm.
Let's go through another a hundred.
I think those are a lot really inspiring, set of drawings there.
You know, I want to go draw now,
I think you guys did some very nice animal cartoons and, you should
be proud of your, animal work.
thank you for being on with me today.
Yeah.
Well thanks for inviting me.
Thanks for
having us.
Yeah.
Some great work.
Yeah, very inspiring.
Agreed.
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Thanks for having me, Daryl.
Nice talking to you guys.
Thank you.
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