[00:00:00] Daryl Cagle: Hi, I'm Daryl Cagle, and this is the CagleCast, where we're all about political cartoons. And today we have our two most reprinted cartoonists of 2024, Jeff Koterba and Chris Weyant. So, Chris, this is the number one most reprinted, most beloved by editors cartoon of the year, and it is yours. You've got the guy sitting in a bar at the Olympics, and one guy says to the other, You Do the Olympics get a gold medal for giving us something to focus on other than the election? [00:00:29] Daryl Cagle: tell us about this cartoon. [00:00:31] Chris Weyant: Uh, yeah, I think it was, you know, there's a, there was a particularly stressful period, and the bad news had been rolling in for, oh, how many years now? But, um, it was nice to have the Olympics, you know, kind of, I think that I'm, I'm, I like the Olympics. I don't watch a ton of the Olympics, but when I do watch it, it's, it's, uh, I think for that universal feeling of thinking of us as humanity and above ourselves, and that's a rare feeling these days. [00:00:54] Chris Weyant: and it wasn't even the greatest Olympics. But it was really, really needed. [00:00:56] Daryl Cagle: So you've got the Olympics, you've got happy younger people who are probably not the demographic that read newspapers chatting with each other in a bar, and they're of mixed race and of mixed sex. I think you're checking all of the boxes for things that editors like. [00:01:11] Chris Weyant: That could be, um, that could be. It's then, you know, it's, uh, and also it's. Amazing Eiffel Tower that I drew that's so accurate and [00:01:20] Jeff Koterba: You put an Eiffel Tower in and you put in some draft beer, Chris You know [00:01:25] Chris Weyant: And a wine. Okay. One glass of wine. So, you know, A glass of wine. [00:01:28] Jeff Koterba: Chris, the thing you talk about, though, the humanity part of it, I mean, that's so true though, because, I think you do that so well. [00:01:34] Jeff Koterba: I try to do that. [00:01:34] Daryl Cagle: As you've done here in your number two cartoon of the year, Jeff, uh, you have the kid and his mom doing math and the kid says, that's a lot of [00:01:42] Daryl Cagle (2): math practicing for when I need help with homework. And mom says, no, I'm trying to figure out how to pay [00:01:48] Daryl Cagle: for your school supplies. This is another one that touches on all those editor buttons. [00:01:52] Jeff Koterba: Well, editor buttons, but ultimately, as in with Chris's cartoon, it's, it's human buttons. It's what, you know, I think it's not just a matter of editors wanting that, but I think it's reflecting readers, their desire to just take a pause from the inundation of the All the stuff, political stuff, bad news, whatever. [00:02:12] Jeff Koterba: And every once in a while, you just, you just want to feel connected to other people somehow in a real way, other than just through social media. And this is a tangible thing. I think that readers react to because it it's reflective of what they're feeling and thinking. And at the end of the day, right? [00:02:28] Jeff Koterba: Like, yes, the political stuff, all that impacts people's lives in a big way. Sometimes in a horrible way sometimes, but. Again, this is where people, real people are living in their daily lives each and every day. [00:02:41] Daryl Cagle: Well, I emphasize the point about editors liking these, because that's what we get a measurement of. [00:02:45] Daryl Cagle: I didn't select these cartoons. These are the cartoons that the editors downloaded from our site, which we, track very closely and. that were, uh, by extension the most reprinted in newspapers during the year. So this is not a judgment on what are the best cartoons or the cartoons that you should draw, but these are the cartoons that please me because they are responsive to supply and demand. [00:03:08] Daryl Cagle: And our, Our editors like these cartoons, so [00:03:11] Jeff Koterba: And I think the editors are really wise for choosing these two cartoons as the top cartoons. I think clearly, [00:03:18] Chris Weyant: and it is under editors always know best. [00:03:21] Daryl Cagle: Very good. So let me tell you that, Chris, Draws for the Boston Globe and the New Yorker magazine. He's a Harvard Nieman fellow, a prolific children's book illustrator and NCS Silver Reuben award winner. [00:03:32] Daryl Cagle: Great to have you here, Chris and Jeff has drawn for over 30 years for the top newspaper in Nebraska as cartoons have flown around the world. And the space shuttle Discovery hosts a show about classical music on radio station KVNO in Omaha. And he has been struck by lightning. [00:03:47] Jeff Koterba: Not all on the same day. [00:03:48] Chris Weyant: And he's fluent in French, [00:03:50] Daryl Cagle: which is, [00:03:50] Jeff Koterba: I find very impressive. [00:03:52] Daryl Cagle: It is. [00:03:53] Daryl Cagle: So this is the number three cartoon, Chris, you have the pollster he says, did you know that according to recent polls, the majority of people shouldn't pay attention to polls? [00:04:03] Chris Weyant: Oh, that's circular reasoning as seen in the caption. [00:04:06] Daryl Cagle: Well, this was a year where the pollsters really got things wrong. [00:04:10] Chris Weyant: Surprise, again. [00:04:11] Daryl Cagle: They seem to get it wrong more than they get it right. [00:04:14] Chris Weyant: They do. I think all of us would like them to get off of the polling. It's a terrible crutch. I mean, in some ways, when they get into the nitty gritty, they were right. [00:04:24] Chris Weyant: But, uh, boy, they're just off and it's, it leads the paper. But it's also goes back to actually Jeff's cartoon in the, in the last one, which is there, there, these are kitchen table issues was the election in the end, even against all logic, uh, and, and some people's own safety, they voted for kitchen table issues. [00:04:39] Chris Weyant: And so that's, you know, that's where we are. [00:04:41] Daryl Cagle: I also agree that people who disagree with me are going against all logic. [00:04:45] Daryl Cagle: Clearly. Okay, Jeff, here you are at number four. And you have the guy in A.I. Psychiatrist's office, and he says, Elon Musk says AI will take all our jobs, but we can still do a job as a hobby. [00:05:02] Daryl Cagle: And the AI psychiatrist says, Oh, that's cute. [00:05:06] Jeff Koterba: I love drawing robots. you know, if one day the president were a robot, I would just be thrilled every day. No, there's something, I don't know. I love it. So it, but it's, yeah, I don't know. I love drawing robots. [00:05:16] Daryl Cagle: AI is this big evil thing that's looming over us with our imposed doom. [00:05:21] Jeff Koterba: It's a tool and it does. There is an aspect of not goodness about AI certainly. And I have concerns. We've done different podcasts about that on that topic a few times, legitimate concerns. But it's also a tool and it's just, it's like anything. I mean, the internet is amazing, but it's also really horrific. [00:05:42] Daryl Cagle: This is number five by Rick McKee. It's a Charlie Brown Christmas Christmas tree. It says peace on earth on the one ornament, and it's not such a bad little tree. Really? Maybe it just needs a little love says Linus van Pelt. this is one of the most drawn, metaphors, I think, the Charlie Brown Christmas tree every year. [00:06:02] Chris Weyant: I feel like I haven't seen this one in a while. [00:06:05] Daryl Cagle: Well, we have a bunch of them every year and they are always among the most popular. [00:06:10] Chris Weyant: For Christmas. [00:06:10] Chris Weyant: I would have [00:06:11] Jeff Koterba: guessed that, uh, well, oh, I see. I would have guessed that overall, though, the, uh, Lucy pulling away the football as Charlie Brown is about ready to kick it would be the most riffed on toon. [00:06:21] Chris Weyant: Yeah. For the Charlie Brown. Yeah. [00:06:23] Daryl Cagle: You know, I haven't, uh, I haven't tracked [00:06:25] Daryl Cagle: this data. [00:06:26] Jeff Koterba: But that is a beautiful drawing from Rick. I just, honestly, way better drawn than the original cartoon. Animated show is beautiful, but that's a drawing. [00:06:36] Chris Weyant: It really is. He's strong, it's, it's very intimate. It really pulls you in. There's something about the way she, he was able and also his color sense was great. [00:06:42] Chris Weyant: So [00:06:42] Daryl Cagle: I just did a podcast that was all Christmas cartoons by Rick McKee. ' cause he just really excels at Christmas. [00:06:49] Daryl Cagle: Each of you have your areas in which you excel. So here is R. J. Mattson with, the Dems and the Republicans, uh, looking at the blank crystal ball. A pre election cartoon, And Jeff, here you are again, back in the psychiatrist's couch. And the psychiatrist says, [00:07:06] Daryl Cagle (2): Let's see if I'm hearing you correctly. As a groundhog, climate change is impeding your ability to predict the weather. And the groundhog says, Am I having an existential crisis? [00:07:16] Chris Weyant: Oh, man. That's some impressive voicing. Nice, [00:07:20] Jeff Koterba: nice groundhog, Daryl. [00:07:23] Daryl Cagle: Oh, thank you. [00:07:24] Jeff Koterba: You've got voice talent in the future. Hey, when we take this to network, we'll consider you for the groundhog. [00:07:31] Daryl Cagle: Oh, well, thank you. Well, I notice that both of you guys are very responsive to holidays. And when a holiday's coming up, those are the only cartoons that get reprinted. [00:07:41] Chris Weyant: Terrible. I don't want to hear that. [00:07:44] Chris Weyant: I want to hear all of our cartoons. I do like this. This is a great gag. and I also like that this, the herpes has two degrees, Jeff. [00:07:51] Chris Weyant: The other one had one degree. This is a two degrees. I think the groundhog, you know, is a little bit harder to shrink. [00:07:57] Jeff Koterba: It's all two degrees of separation from a real psychiatrist. [00:08:01] Daryl Cagle: All right, here's Adam where the guy in the winter says, I can't wait to be outside all summer. And the guy in the summer says, all summer. [00:08:08] Chris Weyant: That's true. [00:08:09] Jeff Koterba: I like the little, uh, little lines coming out of the, uh, out of the air. Cause you know, it reminds me, I don't know if you guys are old enough, but like Sears Roebuck, when I was a kid, you go to Sears and they'd have, Like a window unit, air conditioner on display. And they'd have like streams of like aluminum foil to show you that it's blowing air. [00:08:29] Chris Weyant: Yeah. Yeah. We, they, they used to tie up, like plastic ribbons on it too, to have it like, you know, red, white, and blue in case you couldn't figure out what was going on. I wonder if he drew those in like after, or those part of the original design. Like, you know, I need more motion there. So then what's going on. [00:08:43] Chris Weyant: Yeah, it's a good good split screen. [00:08:46] Daryl Cagle: Yeah, it is. And I used to joke that if Hallmark could be an editorial cartoonist, those would be the most popular editorial cartoons, but it's also true of the weather. You know, if a cartoonist drew nothing but weather, That would be very popular, [00:09:02] Chris Weyant: which is kind of fallback in case of emergency. [00:09:05] Daryl Cagle: That's kind of sad. I, I don't like cartoons about the weather. [00:09:09] Jeff Koterba: It's the only thing that grocery store cashiers are allowed to discuss with customers is the weather. [00:09:15] Chris Weyant: Is that true? [00:09:15] Daryl Cagle: Is that a rule somewhere? [00:09:16] Jeff Koterba: Well, I, I, I trained as in a grocery store many, many, many years ago, and that was the general idea. So, But I I'll suggest this to anyone watching this when you next time you're at the grocery store instead of just having a casual Hey, how you doing? [00:09:32] Jeff Koterba: Oh, blah, blah, blah. Ask a really quirky question. And you will see that cashier's face light up like who's the tallest customer? You've ever had or who had the weirdest hat and they have stories. [00:09:46] Chris Weyant: Yeah, that's I worked at A& P as part of the meat cutters union. Um, and, uh, uh, which went on the, on strike the first day after I joined. [00:09:57] Chris Weyant: Uh, and so I got to, I had one day of work and I went on strike. But they didn't train us and that may be why I didn't know what they didn't tell us. Oh, I also got fired from that job. So maybe I didn't get the proper training. [00:10:08] Jeff Koterba: Go on strike and then you get fired. Wow. [00:10:10] Daryl Cagle: I just amended your, uh bio to add the meatpackers union. [00:10:14] Chris Weyant: Now, you know why I'm a cartoonist. All right. [00:10:17] Daryl Cagle: Dave Whamond has. the parents watching the big TV and the kid's eyes on his phone and mom says, I don't get these kids today [00:10:27] Daryl Cagle (2): spending all day staring at their little screens. [00:10:30] Jeff Koterba: It's legit. I love that drawing. I love that drawing that Dave sent with the the screen because had I done this cartoon I would have probably just drawn, you know, a generic looking TV anchor and felt the need to make up some false name or something. [00:10:43] Jeff Koterba: And he's just kind of blurred it out in a very nice, very nice way. And that's wonderful. [00:10:49] Daryl Cagle: It just, Makes your eye go to the, part with the black outlines and, not pay attention to the screen. [00:10:55] Chris Weyant: Yeah. [00:10:55] Jeff Koterba: Peripherally, you pick up on it, but yeah, it's good. [00:10:57] Chris Weyant: Yeah. It's a good distraction. [00:10:59] Daryl Cagle: So Jeff, here you are again. [00:11:00] Daryl Cagle: Here is Lady Liberty and she's sitting at the table writing as graduation takes place during campus protests. Some are still taking tests and she's writing, Define free speech. It's not always a simple answer. Let me explain. [00:11:15] Jeff Koterba: It's complex, but you know, nuance is often lost in our culture. And Civil discourse is often not fair. [00:11:23] Jeff Koterba: And I long for those days of yesteryear when you could have these complex conversations and the nuance of, of a point about say free speech, but I digress. Yeah, I was happy with a book. I was happy with a book bag or a backpack, I guess. I don't want to put stars on it though. That's weird. Well, [00:11:41] Daryl Cagle: that's a great, caption for a newspaper, like all the news that's fit to print, uh, All those great conversations we used to have that were so complex that we can't have anymore. Yeah. [00:11:52] Jeff Koterba: It's a little long, but I like it, Daryl. I like it. And then add a, and then like they used to do at the end of a headline, put a little, little period. [00:12:00] Daryl Cagle: Very good. [00:12:02] Chris Weyant: That's a good, that's a good cartoon. [00:12:03] Daryl Cagle: So here is Dave Whamond, and he's got the kid in math class saying to the teacher, [00:12:09] Daryl Cagle (2): I refuse to answer, Mrs. [00:12:11] Daryl Cagle (2): Shinkletooth. Don't you think we already have too much division in this country? [00:12:15] Daryl Cagle: I liked that [00:12:17] Chris Weyant: cartoon. Yeah, solid gag. Makes its point. I also like that she has the side eye that the dog had in the last, the last side eye. Yeah, yeah, good catch. I'm a sucker, I'm a sucker for side eye. [00:12:27] Daryl Cagle (2): Okay, Chris, here you are again. It's a nice planet, but politically it's nothing but reruns. [00:12:32] Chris Weyant: That night sky should have been darker by a lot. [00:12:36] Chris Weyant: I don't know why it's so, so fair. Yeah, you know. Was [00:12:41] Jeff Koterba: it cloudy? Was it fog? Yeah, space fog. I'm [00:12:44] Chris Weyant: not sure what happened there. Conscious, is that right? It's surprisingly gray, but yeah. [00:12:48] Jeff Koterba: Chris, are you mostly drawing digitally, or what? [00:12:50] Chris Weyant: No, I, I, I, I do everything actually, uh, um, you know, um, traditionally, and then, and then I do my color, obviously digitally, but yeah, I, I just like, just like it. [00:13:00] Chris Weyant: I don't know why. I think it slows me down. [00:13:02] Daryl Cagle: It gives you original art. [00:13:04] Chris Weyant: And it gives me original art, that is true. [00:13:06] Daryl Cagle: You know, the comic book guys make most of their income selling their original art and have resisted, doing it electronically. I wish that editorial cartoonists could say that they sell lots of originals, but, uh, we should, [00:13:18] Chris Weyant: we go to museums. [00:13:19] Chris Weyant: That's where we go. [00:13:21] Jeff Koterba: Here's, here's the problem with that, Daryl and Chris, you guys might have experienced this is that, I mean, I do sell them occasionally, but a lot of times the cartoons, especially if it's highly political that readers love, it's a critical cartoon about so and so they're like, Oh, that's a great cartoon. [00:13:36] Jeff Koterba: but they don't want to hang that on the wall and be reminded of that politician they don't like, you know? So they, and they don't, a lot of times they won't under. You know, make the connection that who cares like I would, if I had a chance to get a Pat Oliphant original, I don't care who it's about. It's the original drawing, you know, that that's Beauty and value, but [00:13:57] Chris Weyant: yeah, no, that is true. [00:13:58] Chris Weyant: It's, I think it's a little, it's just because it's, you know, it's something hot. Even with, even with the ones I have on my wall, it's like, you know, , it's, there are tough subjects sitting around, staring at you day after day. [00:14:07] Daryl Cagle: Yeah. Here you're again, Jeff, and you've got the couple [00:14:10] Daryl Cagle: in the coffee house and she says, this isn't going to work out. [00:14:13] Daryl Cagle: I see. A booming economy, but you're still Mr. Inflation. [00:14:17] Chris Weyant: That's good. [00:14:18] Jeff Koterba: I love couple breakup cartoons and I, you know, I'll be, I've done that before. I love it because it's, I don't know why it's like telling a little micro story. There's this couple with this backstory, this history, you drop in on this moment. [00:14:32] Jeff Koterba: And I used, uh, uh, one of my favorite coffee shops, uh, locally as as a visual. because I feel like that makes it even feels more real and more local. And now when I go to that coffee shop and I see other couples sitting there, I think, Oh, are they breaking up? [00:14:45] Chris Weyant: Do you see two checks? Do you see one? [00:14:48] Daryl Cagle: I hadn't noticed that you do a lot of breakup cartoons. [00:14:52] Jeff Koterba: I, I'm, I don't, I have not, I'm not saying that I actually have done that. I've done it before, but like, just, I love that, that, uh, contrast, I guess, you know, and [00:15:02] Daryl Cagle: Breakup cartoons and psychiatrist cartoons. [00:15:04] Jeff Koterba: Ooh, I need to do couples therapy cartoons next. That's a good, that's a, that's a [00:15:09] Chris Weyant: rich one. [00:15:10] Chris Weyant: We, that's a good, [00:15:11] Jeff Koterba: there we go. [00:15:11] Daryl Cagle: Okay. Here's Gary McCoy. And uh, he's got husband coming into wife, who's cutting a big sausage, which I'm not sure if that's a metaphor. And he says, there, I've already completed my list of new year's resolutions that I plan to break. It's honest. [00:15:30] Jeff Koterba: It's true. [00:15:31] Chris Weyant: Okay. Jars, dude, there's two jars or something. I'm I'm, I'm, I'm looking at the frame, the, the, the frame on the wall as I seem to keep doing, looking at backgrounds. Its like, that's interesting, why didn't you put a frame on the other one [00:15:47] Chris Weyant: that's interesting. Why'd you do that? Good gag. [00:15:49] Daryl Cagle: Okay, Jeff. Here you are again. Even more than a solar storm. People from across the political spectrum gazing up in unison. This is essentially a weather cartoon. [00:15:59] Jeff Koterba: Yeah, the night sky thing. I mean, that was just one of those things. I'm sure you guys saw, you know, your Facebook page just inundated with, uh, with photos from the northern lights, but. [00:16:10] Jeff Koterba: It was really cool. And, and it was wonderful and beautiful to see people whom I know are on different sides of the political spectrum, finding this thing, this common thing that they could agree on was beautiful. And I don't know if either of you went out to look. I certainly did. [00:16:26] Chris Weyant: I saw it here. And then we're in the New York City area and I look up and the skies are glowing pink. [00:16:33] Chris Weyant: So, you know, I instantly think, what kind of attack was that? And then I realized, no, it's the Northern Lights we're seeing all the way down here. And even that little tiny bit was phenomenal. [00:16:43] Daryl Cagle: You got it in Omaha, Jeff? [00:16:45] Jeff Koterba: Oh yeah. Yeah. In fact, my, my, my, yeah, in fact, a family who lives South like Florida even caught a glimpse a little bit. [00:16:53] Jeff Koterba: what I do, what you don't know is that those aren't stars in the background. Those are. drones of New Jersey, but that's a whole other story. [00:17:01] Daryl Cagle: Okay, very good. [00:17:03] Chris Weyant: All right, hold on, before you go to the next, the enormous props on being able to draw this, to paint this, this is absolutely gorgeous and, and, and. [00:17:12] Chris Weyant: Oh, thanks. Anyone who does, there's no one who does anything that has to do with things that are non terrestrial better than you when it, when it comes to space and you, you draw the, really your love of that comes through on every cartoon beautifully. [00:17:27] Daryl Cagle: So here's Bob Englehart, the guy's watching TV with his doggy and his kitty and the TV says, We interrupt the political advertising for our regularly scheduled program. [00:17:36] Daryl Cagle: A lot of political ads [00:17:38] Daryl Cagle: this [00:17:38] Daryl Cagle: year. [00:17:39] Chris Weyant: There were. [00:17:39] Jeff Koterba: And he's got dogs and cats, I mean. Right. [00:17:42] Chris Weyant: He's bipartisan. [00:17:43] Jeff Koterba: I love it. It's a bipartisan ad. It's a bipartisan, uh, cartoon. By, by, biped-ison. [00:17:48] Chris Weyant: Nice. [00:17:49] Daryl Cagle: I also draw the back of the television so that I don't have to draw what's on it. [00:17:53] Jeff Koterba: You know, when TVs, when, when flat screens first came in, I was really disappointed. [00:17:57] Jeff Koterba: My, growing up, my dad repaired TVs and I would help him carry these big giant console TVs. But they were, there was something beautiful about drawing the back of a TV, glowing with the big boxy thing. And then like flat screens, same thing with phones. I was kind of panicked. I don't know about you guys. [00:18:14] Jeff Koterba: When, you know, mobile phones came in, I was like, I'm going to show people talking to a rectangle. [00:18:18] Chris Weyant: Yeah. Yeah, I know. [00:18:20] Jeff Koterba: not so interesting. [00:18:22] Chris Weyant: There's, there's actually good stuff on the back of a flat screen. You know, there's a, there's like there's texture and some, you know, some framing issues there that I always like to put in, but [00:18:30] Jeff Koterba: exactly, [00:18:30] Chris Weyant: it's not like the tubes. [00:18:31] Chris Weyant: I love the tubes. [00:18:33] Chris Weyant: Oh man. Let's see, here we go. [00:18:35] Daryl Cagle: So here's John Darkow, two astronauts on the ISS may be stranded until February, and they're looking out the window saying, is that okay? We're in no hurry to get back before the election. [00:18:47] Jeff Koterba: This is one of those that I was like, Oh, I wish I'd thought of that because I could have drawn space. [00:18:51] Jeff Koterba: Right. That's a good idea. [00:18:53] Daryl Cagle: This is a fun composition that I'm not used to seeing in a political cartoon. And it all points to their heads in the window. And it's, uh, I think it's really cute. [00:19:03] Chris Weyant: He got a lot in there. I can see how much, right? I mean, he's got titling. He's got labeling and he's got a caption and the earth. [00:19:11] Chris Weyant: He had to squeeze in there somehow. [00:19:12] Jeff Koterba: Yeah. I love the, I love the lettering and the white lettering at that. And I w if I'd done this, I would have probably just done a little box in the top left hand corner, but I love the placement of it. And to your point, Daryl, it's, it's different. And he dropped that lettering in between the shape. [00:19:28] Jeff Koterba: of the space station. Doesn't have to show the whole thing. Just gives you enough. [00:19:33] Daryl Cagle: It's hard. And it's the golden section. He could have drawn it in the Renaissance. Okay. Here's another John Darkow. [00:19:39] Daryl Cagle: And be burned [00:19:39] Chris Weyant: as a heretic. [00:19:40] Jeff Koterba: It was a secret astronaut. Come on. [00:19:45] Daryl Cagle: Go into a jail with Galileo. Here is, John Darkow and he's got Santa on his North Pole Acme drone sleigh saying. [00:19:55] Daryl Cagle: Boy, you try to keep up with the times and all I do is catch grief. I think he's flying above New Jersey. [00:20:02] Chris Weyant: That's Jersey, yeah, for sure. Nice. It [00:20:04] Jeff Koterba: Almost, uh, they had a drawing too, almost a little bit of an impressionist. Monet kind of thing going on there with a, with a little line work in the sky. [00:20:12] Daryl Cagle: Well, you know, he draws, he draws with colored pencils on paper. [00:20:17] Jeff Koterba: Yeah. Oh, does he? Okay. Well, kudos. [00:20:19] Daryl Cagle: Very nice. Yeah. [00:20:22] Daryl Cagle: All right. Uh, Here we have Mitch McConnell, and he is stepping into the storm cellar away from the GOP tornado, saying, It's time for me to step down. He's jumping out of the storm. [00:20:34] Chris Weyant: Gonna miss, not him, but I'm gonna miss drawing him. [00:20:36] Daryl Cagle: So Chris, here you are again with a nice autumn cartoon. Why leaves change color in the fall. And the orange leaf says, what do you mean? You're still undecided. That's great. [00:20:48] Jeff Koterba: I love all the other little leaf faces in the background, but I, Chris, when I first saw this one, my heart went out to the undecided leaf. I really did. I just felt such such empathy [00:21:00] Chris Weyant: for it. Yeah, just because we're once again yelling at them, which is probably what ended up losing the election. [00:21:07] Daryl Cagle: Well, they, uh, they were annoying. [00:21:11] Chris Weyant: But it's, but seriously, you gotta be able to yield it. [00:21:14] Daryl Cagle: Okay, here is, Dave Granlund, and he's drawing the people on vacation looking at the direction signs, which say, that way, shark attacks, beach bacteria, rip currents, wildfires, landslides, drought, high winds, and the other direction, roadwork, no lifeguards, bison attacks, cyclones, flash floods, heatwave, and hailstorms. [00:21:32] Chris Weyant: that is a, uh, that's pretty much a social media feed. [00:21:36] Daryl Cagle: It is. [00:21:37] Daryl Cagle: And it's a weather cartoon [00:21:38] Chris Weyant: title. This is pretty much everything you see. [00:21:40] Jeff Koterba: Good. When did the bison attacks happen? I missed that. [00:21:44] Daryl Cagle: Were there bison attacks? [00:21:45] Chris Weyant: It keeps going easy. I just saw one come up on my feed yesterday. Seriously. Yeah, seriously. People go right up to, they go right up to the bison and then they stand there and they pose and like, it's a big bison, guess what's going to happen next. [00:22:00] Daryl Cagle: Okay, Dave Granlund with another one. Tempting. It's that, crazy house trap. [00:22:05] Jeff Koterba: Nice. [00:22:05] Chris Weyant: Yeah, that's a good solid, joke. [00:22:06] Daryl Cagle: And another John Darkow. He saw his shadow. Six more weeks of stupid politics. I can't go wrong. This is a Groundhog Day cartoon, and a nice one. [00:22:17] Chris Weyant: Good, good [00:22:17] Daryl Cagle: Groundhog. That is a good groundhog. [00:22:19] Daryl Cagle: Here's Gary McCoy again with the same couple. And the man comes in and says, I finished the seating list for Thanksgiving. She says, what do you have? He says, we've got the kids table, the MAGA table, the never Trumpers and grandma Jane, who thinks this country was better before store bought pie crusts. [00:22:41] Jeff Koterba: There are those who feel very strongly about their pie crusts. [00:22:44] Daryl Cagle: Cartoons can be funnier when they're specific. [00:22:47] Chris Weyant: that's always funny. [00:22:48] Jeff Koterba: Now, now I want pie. [00:22:49] Daryl Cagle: So, Chris, here you've got the devil talking to his associate devil, and he says, Remember, if they've been really bad, we make them watch 24 hour election coverage. [00:23:01] Chris Weyant: Sorry. Yeah, there you go. That's all I'll say on that. [00:23:06] Chris Weyant: Yeah, okay. But he's got a nice vest. That's the best I think I can say about that. That's all [00:23:12] Chris Weyant: I can say. [00:23:14] Jeff Koterba: And the shirt, the other one's shirtless. I didn't notice the little devil in the background the first time I saw it when it came out, but the [00:23:22] Chris Weyant: Yeah, yeah, that's, that's [00:23:23] Chris Weyant: for the, uh, editors. [00:23:25] Jeff Koterba: Those devils. [00:23:26] Daryl Cagle: So Jeff, here is your self portrait cartoon and, your, sweetheart says, since when does the news do reruns up next Trump versus Biden? [00:23:38] Jeff Koterba: I'm bummed they didn't do a better job with, well, I'm just bummed they didn't do a better job with the back of that TV. [00:23:44] Chris Weyant: You know that we, we talked about that right now. [00:23:46] Jeff Koterba: I know. Now [00:23:47] Daryl Cagle: is that your doggie? [00:23:48] Jeff Koterba: It's, it's very possible that that is, Finn, the Australian, uh, not Australian term. [00:23:54] Jeff Koterba: That's the old dog. Italian Greyhound Chihuahua mix. Interesting mix. High energy. [00:24:00] Chris Weyant: Does he like run really fast but just for like a foot? Like I'm going to have to ask you, how does it, does it, uh, although [00:24:07] Jeff Koterba: Something like that, yeah. [00:24:08] Chris Weyant: It's still Latin based languages, so that's good for both sides. [00:24:11] Daryl Cagle: So this is your girlfriend [00:24:15] Jeff Koterba: He doesn't understand French. Your girlfriend, Christine, and what's the doggie's name? [00:24:20] Jeff Koterba: Finn. F I N N. [00:24:22] Daryl Cagle: Finn. [00:24:23] Jeff Koterba: Good name, good name. [00:24:24] Daryl Cagle: Here's John Darkow again. Did you take the phone away because my societal peer pressure stressed in isolation? No, mine. Here's Guy Parsons. Good news, I think we've come up with a diagnosis in your price range. [00:24:38] Jeff Koterba: That's great. [00:24:39] Chris Weyant: It's good gag. [00:24:39] Daryl Cagle: It [00:24:40] Daryl Cagle: is good. [00:24:41] Jeff Koterba: That would have been a great New Yorker, New Yorker cartoon too. [00:24:43] Chris Weyant: I did it. I did one like that. So I was thinking I wasn't going to say I did one. I think it was, was my caption was, um, good news. [00:24:49] Chris Weyant: It's, um, something you can afford that's life. [00:24:51] Daryl Cagle: Okay. Here's Joe Biden and he's rowing his little boat. He, he needs a bigger boat with the sharks. And he says, I'm sure they're just friendly dolphins. [00:25:01] Chris Weyant: Oh, Joe. Good job, [00:25:03] Daryl Cagle: Jeff. Here you are again. The guy who voted is going upstairs, talking to his wife and he says, now that's done, I'm taking a nap. [00:25:10] Daryl Cagle: Don't wake me until we have a clear winner. [00:25:13] Jeff Koterba: Well, I did that before the election with the idea, you know, it's one of these things where the election is just a few days away and you're thinking, well, there's not much, what am I going to draw? Oh, well, everybody is saying it's probably going to be close. We may know right away before it's decided. [00:25:27] Jeff Koterba: So I thought, okay. Here's one kind of in advance that I'll hold. Turns out I really didn't. [00:25:32] Daryl Cagle: the news was all about how it's going to be too close to call. And the lawyers were out and already filing their suits. And uh, everybody expected this. I, I did a podcast on too close to call just before the election. [00:25:44] Daryl Cagle: That was entirely wrong. So here's Randy Enos. And the two old ladies are sitting there talking to each other. The first one says, do you ever [00:25:51] Daryl Cagle (2): hear from your great grandchildren? And she says, Oh yes, they butt dialed me every once in a while. [00:25:57] Jeff Koterba: I, I'm old school enough. I, I, I remember a time early in my newspaper career where my editor would not allow me to use the word butt in that context. Not that there was butt dialing before. Mobile phones, but kind of hard to butt dial from rotary. It's much slower. [00:26:16] Daryl Cagle: Things have evolved. We have lots of butts in the cartoons now. I remember Steve Kelly got fired from the San Diego Union Tribune for drawing a plumbers, crack showing. [00:26:25] Jeff Koterba: Really? Wow. I don't remember that. Okay. Wow. [00:26:27] Chris Weyant: Yeah, I do. [00:26:28] Chris Weyant: Did he not have an editor who approved it? [00:26:29] Daryl Cagle: Well, not the editor who fired him. [00:26:32] Chris Weyant: That should be, that should run to the editor who approved it. [00:26:34] Jeff Koterba: I think ultimately it's the plumber's fault. Pull up your, pull up your, your jeans. [00:26:38] Daryl Cagle: So here's Rick McKee again. And you've got the Democrats and the Republicans, uh, facing off over the Turkey and the cooked Turkey says, I thought we agreed not to talk politics. [00:26:50] Chris Weyant: That's a good, that's a nice reinvent, reinvention of that theme. [00:26:54] Daryl Cagle: That seems to be a, a, a theme that editors love. Here is Gary McCoy again with Santa in the chimney and he's saying to the elf, I'm stuck. [00:27:05] Daryl Cagle: I'm going into my bag and get some Ozempic. And the elf says, kind of late for that boss. [00:27:11] Daryl Cagle: Solid, solid gag. [00:27:12] Chris Weyant: Yep. [00:27:12] Daryl Cagle: Gotta love that Ozempic. And here's John Darkow again. Big dance, Biden vs. Trump. It's a March Madness cartoon. And the man says, This is why I don't fill out brackets. Always the same ones. And nobody I like. Trump vs. Biden. [00:27:29] Chris Weyant: I like the depth he's put on his TV. Now I'm just looking at TVs. [00:27:34] Daryl Cagle: It's a good looking TV. [00:27:35] Chris Weyant: It's got depth on there, which is true, it does. It's got the fun stand. I'm just going to look at TVs now and comment on that if that's okay. [00:27:42] Daryl Cagle: Here's Dave Granlund with border signs subject to change. Do not enter as the new border sign as Trump is re elected. [00:27:50] Chris Weyant: That's good. You can use that again. [00:27:53] Daryl Cagle: That is the 35th most popular cartoon of 2024. And that is all we've got, gentlemen. [00:27:59] Chris Weyant: Fantastic. That's good. Awesome. Good end. [00:28:01] Daryl Cagle: Okay. Well, hey, congratulations on being the most printed and most popular in newspapers cartoonists of 2024. We do have competing syndicates, but I would say you are the most popular of all the cartoonists in 2024. [00:28:17] Chris Weyant: Well, that's very sweet to say. Jeff, for sure. [00:28:20] Jeff Koterba: Thank you. [00:28:20] Chris Weyant: He gets my [00:28:21] Jeff Koterba: thank you. [00:28:22] Daryl Cagle: Oh, okay. Very good. I love you guys. [00:28:25] Jeff Koterba: All right. We'll see you on the therapist's couch with a really nice TV. [00:28:28] Daryl Cagle: Very good. Remember to subscribe to the Caglecast wherever you're watching or listening today, our Kegel cast is available in both video and audio versions. So if you don't see the cartoons, go to Cagle.Com or Apple podcasts or Rumble or YouTube com or Spotify.com to see the cartoons in the video podcast. And, gentlemen, I, I quite enjoyed having you here today and thank you again. [00:28:50] Jeff Koterba: Loved it [00:28:50] Chris Weyant: thanks for having me. [00:28:53] Daryl Cagle: All right, folks. See you later. 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