Hi I'm Daryl Cagle and this is the
hi I'm Daryl Cagle and this is the
CagleCast where we're all about political
cartoons and today we're talking about
Vladimir Putin and we have four great
cartoonists that we're talking to our
first cartoonist today is Vladimir
kazanesque has probably won more awards
at International cartoon competitions
than any other cartoonist in the world
he's Ukraine's most noteworthy
cartoonist and he recently at an
exhibition in Paris of his cartoons
about the war in Ukraine Vlad is a long
time contributor to Cagle cartoons and
he is a refugee from his home in Kiev
living in Slovakia now
and Rick McKee Drew for many years for
the Augusta Chronicle he draws comic
pluggers and we've syndicated Rick for
20 years Imad hajaj draws cartoons for
the alarabi al-jadid al-gad newspaper I
think imod is the best known Arabic
language cartoonist certainly to
Americans we've syndicated iman's work
for nearly 20 years also and Bill day
draws for Florida politics.com he's
worked for many years as the cartoonist
for the Memphis Commercial Appeal and
the Detroit Free Press and we've also
syndicated a bill for 20 years I mean
this is this is a 20 years group
gentlemen it's very nice to have you all
here could be here to be here
well let's start off with Vlad I'll show
a couple of each of your cartoons Vlad
this is an impressive one so are these
all of the the Russians fleeing from the
Russian bear and Putin or it says
everybody in the world fleeing from the
grip of the Russian bear
yes it's well known that as a beer is a
symbol of Russia for any centuries
announced mobilization many many young
Russians have out from Russia and
rebuilt a great Empire after it's stable
is the Russia will destroyed after our
weekend Ukrainian
well we wish you all the best and I
should say when the war first started
and bombs were going off near vlad's
apartment he left and is living near the
border in Slovakia and you still have
your sons in Ukraine and Ukraine to us
on television looks terrible but you're
telling me that life is getting back to
normal in Kiev and you've been back to
visit and uh do you want to tell us a
little bit about how you're doing and
how you see things in Ukraine
yes I I visited the key City it did this
book and the lift the King City over two
weeks and I have seen many people look
like 50 people because it's spring it's
some and you name it barbecue the
restaurant The Walking medicines
walking transports are working on their
City it is a real terrible War but the
Ukrainian people it's strong well that's
great and we're going to show a bunch of
your cartoons in just a minute this is
Rick McKee
Rick one thing I appreciate about your
work is you take every opportunity to
draw lots of teeth
are deep yeah I like drawing monsters I
think you know when I was little kid
always like drawing monsters and this
one is from uh 2014 so this is a kind of
an older one it seems
I think right after the Russians Annex
trying Obama was getting it in the media
for the perception of being weak so
Putin's got his bear with all the teeth
and Obama's got his bear which is less
intimidating I think in retrospect Obama
really was weak and regrettable that he
didn't do more at the time yep seems
that way here's a more recent one of
yours I should say that this podcast is
an audio and a video podcast and most
people hear just the audio on the
podcast platforms so I need to describe
all of these cartoons in words here
you've got the Frankenstein monster
Ukraine war taking a bite on Putin Putin
says my bib is a year old it's a great
cartoon another opportunity for teeth
yeah more tea I was in my teeth face
that seems like a career log phase an
excellent phase and all right well Iman
here's a couple of years to introduce
you here is Putin at his famous long
table which is one of his destroyed
tanks and dead soldiers very nice
looking cartoon thank you actually you
know we can honestly love find key
features in any character and just
represent the character through that
future when I saw the table for the best
time I thought it could be a good thing
to start and if you're singing like a
big weapon look to you like the big
Rocky this is one variation of many
cartoons I did about Putin's big table
and still will see it here as a big
great washing tank with an Essence
neonate destroyed and you will find Mr
Putin sitting there trying to look that
he's in control but he's not you are
drawing from Amman Jordan and your
cartoons appear in an Arabic language
paper that's published in London what is
the view of Ukraine war in the Middle
East is Russia universally seen as the
evil aggressor as it is in most of the
world I think let me it was a black
misery here that you know also in the
Middle East and Polo balls Iraq
I did the cartoon about this one but it
was really really annoying feeling
sometimes to see the world pops up in a
distant place
Sometimes some people here will make a
joke about it oh at last it's out
outside New Delhi but of course all work
is a very open and terrible thing for me
as a Cartoonist my family and we were
part of our Lives as Refugee and I know
how difficult it is for refugees have
helped the suffering how it is difficult
to change their name and the world is
very very championship and Netflix is my
world solidarity with the Ukrainian
nation in this horrible thing that we
are moving that's why when I started
drawing about which I was already
drawing about his horizontal beats in
Syria he was bombing cities and schools
and hospitals and he did the same in
your king so it was for me it was going
on the same continuous need about Mr
Putin now with his big table it does
take attention away from the Middle East
when the world is quiet in the Middle
East is always having terrible troubles
unfortunately uh we're we're used to the
Middle East dominating the news and now
we don't get much Middle East News at
all the rest of the world has gotten
worse yes it is also it's my my problem
as a Cartoonist right and you see I I
deal with editors and they sometimes
they they wouldn't ask for ask me to
draw cartoon about local issues who
thought something about
Syria in like one I want sometimes to do
something about you and I should say
this and to be ranked and play it with
you unfortunately I think the majority
at least in Jordan most of the first
naked people
will be in favor of Mystic Putin we are
short-sighted yet there is many many
people here are with Ukraine I am one of
these people I support you clean people
but it's not a popular opinion view most
of the people there let me say they
believe that Russia will make a balance
in the world and that wouldn't be
Justice to begin and he says I believe
it's totally wrong and what many appears
building own kind of work all kinds of
violence all kinds of big nation just
swallowing small nation this has to stop
it's interesting to me this third world
notion about Russia being a balancing
force and the eagerness to do business
with Russia looking at the West leaving
as an opportunity it doesn't seem like
there are enough Horrors that Russia can
perpetrate to get it through people's
head it's very disturbing to see the
third world reaction to Russia we had to
note something that the worst part of
this world yet that is that medium
and unfortunately it's it's making some
effect big effect in many many cities
and some people do believe some kind of
propaganda I know I know this because I
I've engaged some somehow with
discussing pbd with the people who on my
page of Facebook and Twitter and on
another social media platform and I
spent lots of time just to try to figure
out what is really happening and we'll
discover that many people are discussing
fake news rumors their own page photos
and unfortunately it's very very popular
view the our region Arabic region we
should we should we should know that
there is a high level of magnitude and
there is a big frustration because we
don't have peace we don't have political
Justice in our vision we think we stated
about the West about the head States we
are not being objective with us and
that's why we find many of them adopting
Russian narrative or the Russian way of
looking that beautiful sport I'm gonna
show a couple here from Bill day hey
you've got Vladimir Putin pointing it
his third nipple Ukraine I gotta say I
don't quite understand the third nipple
I I saw that James Bond movie where the
bad guy was it scaramanka the The Man
with the Golden Gun has a third nipple
and James Bond puts a third fake nipple
on himself that's the only third nipple
reference I know what's what's going on
here I don't remember exactly uh what
was going on at the time because I drew
this so long ago but
um I think I was trying to say that he
they own the Ukraine he owes the Ukraine
it belongs to him very good uh here's
another one of yours I noticed too that
Putin and the Ukraine war kind of gets
American cartoonists drawing more at an
international style I mean this could
have been a world cartoonist and of
course Putin is a monster that fits into
many situations
basically I'm having his gasoline pump
we're we were trying to cut off the oil
the gasoline oil for painting so that
was the time I was drawing it okay well
I've got some bigger batches of your
stuff here's a couple of mine Putin with
his buddies Modi and Xi Jinping and uh
here is Putin with all the countries he
wants to devour and digest and
reconstitute the USSR this is one of
those cartoons that no editor is going
to print I was gonna you know sometimes
sometimes we draw cartoons just for
ourselves and I'm guilty of that too but
I'm very tolerant of it when you guys
draw cartoons just for yourselves have
you noticed that sure yeah
all right so bill here you've got uh
Putin and he's uh vampire Putin in his
uh teeth or his fangs or Hammers and
sickles vladula this is a international
cartoonist Trope they draw a whole lot
of vampires internationally and we don't
really do that very much in America I
think that's because we draw a lot of
devils That You Don't See around the
world in international cartoons as much
as the vampires here you've got
octoputin he's got all of his arms but
two cut off so six chopped off arms as
he's grabbing Ukraine and Crimea
well I think I'm trying to remember
exactly uh I cut off the arms because
while I'm in the collapse of the silver
Union you didn't have many armed left so
Russia itself's rib Crimea and he's now
placed at gravity crane so this is a
2014 cartoon we thought it was pretty
sophisticated to figure out that's why
his arms are chopped off well at the
time it makes sense
here you've got uh Putin flexing his
muscle and he's not uh doing very well
as the muscle droops Vladimir
Schwarzenegger boiling oil practices
hurt rushing especially their economic
system we have sanctions against them
but they don't be working very well they
don't it's interesting how well Russia
does with all of the sanctions that we
thought would do so much more here's a
cartoon no one would print you guys know
whenever you draw Hitler nobody prints
it and any kind of Hitler metaphor you
put a swastik in a cartoon that just
doesn't get printed anywhere you know
that I do then yeah well that doesn't
keep up from drawing uh you know Trump
either does it they don't like to print
Trump they'll print a few trumps but
they won't print Hitler's they also
don't like to print bodily fluids you
know we get lots of blood in cartoons
about the Middle East blood Ukraine
cartoons that doesn't get printed maybe
it's different around the world you see
a lot of blood and Hitler cartoons in
the Middle East don't you mod yes now I
guess yes in case it's different in all
of Legion there's a definite standards
the way you look at them what these what
you find
let me say it frankly even in Arabic
newspapers good Arabic newspaper now we
have some something that matched in
Western Standard in journalism they are
not accepting uh very exactly capitals
as they used in the past that Bloody
scene or cartoon that have the logic
graphic seals in capture are not printed
anymore we didn't say even iflock will
be not beefed up sometimes he's rejected
to Arabic newspaper not because maybe
maybe some newspaper wouldn't be
hesitating to publish it for other
reason some other cartoonists tell you
that many cartoons about Israel and
Israel
and many newspapers now or don't
published and stuff some of them do if
you asked me I don't use this I really
use this ensembled not this simple
unless there's something bad in your
epic happen or an idea that I wanted to
be yeah I had to do it this way but if
you ask me cartoonists or that have old
freedom to represent their Idol these
are dictators
we had a very bad people it's our
guidance cartoons too we could play them
and draw them in many ways and I think
it's it's part of our freedom by
cartoons the way we want but Daryl would
we say the newspapers in general have
grown more timid than the last
10 years or so I mean you know I mean in
the 70s and the 80s and the 90s
cartoonists were drawing
you know a lot more provocative stuff in
the United States and it just seems like
with the collapsing industry editors are
more timid and they're they're afraid to
of losing readers so they they don't
want to they don't want to print
anything at least fit for thought of it
you know we saw all of the gannet papers
drop uh editorial cartoons entirely
because they didn't like having left
versus right in their papers that's what
they said you know that's disturbing as
cartoonists we like to have strong views
and hit people over the head with our
ideas and editors prefer soft little
jokes
um another thing we're seeing from
editors is that they are not interested
that much in the rest of the world
cartoons about Ukraine don't get printed
much cartoons about Putin don't get
printed much there is a local Focus let
me say in our case in community after
the if you remember the Danish Mohammed
cartoons and what came at you like
Charlie Abdul Olympic events I think in
Allen many people became very sensitive
that includes evidence too and they are
they becoming very sensitive when you
talk about and unit if you put any
religion assembled in Newcastle it will
be rejected I'm talking about the use of
the newspaper that I will throw if you
draw I use in the past I used to have a
character called Abu Muhammad which is I
use it just like it's very very popular
Abu Muhammad is just somebody in the
streets and I used to draw that
character for a long long time without
any problem after this there are two
places we Danish cartoons and
many editors will reject that type that
amen you have to change that name it's
not good it's a name of prophet you
gotta find another name this is one of
the most annoying cases that I faced and
I think the reason is people are
becoming very sensitive about anything
cartoons is a wonderful for art a
cartoon is we tend to have creative way
to make and I think it's our right to
work
is against and insulting people and
their holy things nobody can do that but
it's our right as a catch unit with our
visual world I am uh and human being I
see a most it's my life to do it in my
careful I'm not insulting this life I
didn't say you can say you can still
think about the churches or the religion
is part of our online and being should
have right to go about it well I I think
you make a good point it's not just
editors that are more sensitive about
controversial stuff it's the readers as
well it's not at all hard to get the
readers angry you see or the meal we get
and I think they're more sensitive than
they used to be more intolerant of views
that are different than their
pre-existing views if it's the social
media who makes people like with the
word itself is changing I know but as
you said if you look at the cartoon that
will publish in the Apes separate beat
would I look at my old works sometimes I
ask myself can I return this capture now
what would happen if I tilt it I
wouldn't even dare to publish it
Bill here's another one you've got uh
Ukrainian soldiers shooting a missile
into the mouth of the vulture who's
labeled Putin I gotta say it's awfully
easy to draw Putin Woody could just
write the name on Putin and that's named
Putin on anything and that's Putin this
is actually a follow-up cartoons from
what I did earlier where actually I had
cranus and Dove like sitting on the beak
of a vulture that was Putin and as it
turned out ukrainians certainly did not
become doves they are fighting back and
clearly uh shown the Russians that they
are the force to deal with now they did
not roll over not fill their arms up
they they're playing back with great
courage very inspiring to see them
fighting back yes very much so that was
what that's about so we're up to you
Iman it is the big pushing stable again
and this time as a rocket launcher
macaron I put it this way he was more
like threatening him and we see his
debit is [ __ ] up with
I like to portray him with that thanks
Soldier hat I love the Siri it gives
Boutique
you know very fun this is very good
curious uh driving the Eraser tank
looking to erase Ukraine I was inspired
by one of the Russian tanks of soldier
caliot it looks just most likely we
defensive at least the old one and the I
find it a good idea just to make it as a
vehicle that Mr Project is riding and he
is using a Miss tank as an eraser he's
using the borders between the country
it's variety to the team lead other
countries on Rectify them this one was
published in Lomond
is to you know is to respond to be a
Russian propaganda
that try to portray to Jin as in
civilized man who plays piano and
District artists so uh in the country
that I portray him in that photo that
portrayed him as a piano player yes he
is but he's playing he's playing a very
or very horrible horrible Weapon It's
not a piano it's a rocket that's killing
people yes so yes it somehow looks like
a piano but it is a killing machine
there aren't very many notes on it yeah
yeah here he is driving his uh bloody
Hatchet tank exactly it's the same team
it's the same trick or twist I love to
do it we finally get matched with some
weapon or tank on adapted to another
object to give you some kind of
indirectly I like that I like the Z
here's another big table cartoon but the
table is reminiscent of a nuclear bomb
explosion yeah you got the world hanging
on and Putin uh comfortably hanging on
yes because he pushed the whole warp on
that bench and that way until
getting horrible in their address his
his big devil now seems to me as much on
cloud explosion he's threatening the
world with him able to help you often
but here he is uh driving his missile
like a motorcycle and muddying up the
world again yes as us want one wins
portal he was either a motorcycle
yeah
rocket launcher so yeah a Rockets are
getting to be a metaphor for Putin here
he is as a jet with a big bloody knife
and his bombs flying over Ukraine and
have a very simple touching for its
thing and that it's very dangerous
I think his face is difficult to draw
because you know just a few years ago he
looked very much he looked very much
like a bond villain he had this more
angular face like you've drawn here but
now his face is round and puffy and he
looks kind of like an elk our colleague
Marianne kamansi the Austrian Catholic
yeah something about this subject why
they put you look so loud he said
because he's using lots of products
instead maybe an evil but if you asked
me and I'll tell you that we in basic
shape of Mr coaching very
to to be sketched and very easy to be
manipulative well he used to be angular
he used to have these hard uh jaws and
now he's just a certain mod I see you
worked Isis into the flag
yeah yes
which is
um you know I'm trying to morph or mix
the uh Isis flag with the Russian
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well I just wants to build up this
caliphate over the whole region and uh
Putin wants to rebuild the Soviet Union
ironically ironically represent himself
as the as the fighter of Terror in Syria
that is
but what I want to say in this cartoon
that he's doing the same he just yeah
it's some kind of a state
they are just a smaller group and and Mr
portrayal is hating a big state with big
capability at doing the same thing while
killing innocent people from pointing US
cities and committing Warcraft and
Vladimir now we have a bunch of your
cartoons you've got a lot of grim
reapers on their knees worshiping the
Putin bomb
uh yes I mean put in with boobs are made
for this it's a great job and for this
put in the putinism
OR on politics of modern Russia it's
like religion because there is this way
putting troops
killed many many people and uh it's a
new religion snowing in the world the
putting this drug to the Vault and the
converted without substance speaking
perfumes
and they hear made his great job
yeah I think it's I would like to sing
about some new reusable
you know we we get news here about the
Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine and
how that's really like a branch of the
Russian government fully pro-war and
fully controlled by the Russian State we
have some voices here that are U.S
support for Ukraine and that's one of
the points that they like to make a lot
is that Ukraine is suppressing freedom
of your religion uh by suppressing this
church
but you have to understand that religion
in Russia
Orthodox
and for example Ukraine uh we have a big
problem with Russian propaganda echos
Russian church song called Ukrainian
Church
but Moscow
it means that many military
for the support for supporting Russia
so-called Russian war and right now we
increase where we are fighting against
this orthodoxing Russian religion it
does seem that this church is just a
branch of the Russian government
operating in Ukraine yes yes across
across religion they made propaganda
across religion and this cartoon means
that this is a religion are going across
the across propaganda across religion
here's another one of yours which would
not get printed here just because it's
got a swastika in it but you've got a
swastikaans and uh Star of David
blinders on Putin who is
um dragging his uh his Kremlin along On
Wheels with steam pipes and I wonder if
you could tell us about this one
uh
I find the way they're all in the way to
wall uh in this wall and here I go in
the like a cross and cannot see the
outside anything because he have
ideology or fascism so-called racism in
in Ukraine our parliament make a rule
the
racism it like fashion and in our
country official except Russians more is
ideology of Russia and the second part
the second site it's a star or Soviet
star it's all
fashion and that's a Soviet story
because that look that looked to me like
a
Star of David you see the little uh bit
here by his nose at the the bottom it
star star from Soviet Bank oh okay oh I
like I like the drawing of the character
is really nice
thank you of course the gas and oil it's
the main power of all Soul Mr Vladimir
have a very distinguished way in
portraying great Putin I should date and
say that and I love the way he put cream
put him basically his mouth
you have beautiful work with Vladimir
I'm just always impressed by your work
here you've got Putin and he looks like
he's using a missile like a piece of
wood to rub and start a fire but he's
doing that on the big red button that
destroys the world with nuclear bombs as
he sits on the Kremlin and he has to put
him multi the notices that he will use a
nuclear weapon
times that he will use the nuclear
weapon and he's like primitive for men
who are speaking about by war in Ukraine
he would like to say that I will
destroying the wall
and I would like to symbolize his idea
and he is sitting on Kremlin you see
he's really simple old man without
glosses very primitive and then
not stupid but he is very clever he is
crime well but we will see what he will
do with nuclear weapon we've learned
that his military is pretty lousy and
it's like he doesn't have enough tools
and his tool just left it makes it much
look more likely that he's gonna do
something with a nuclear weapon that's
pretty scary
nuclear weapons
nuclear but I'm stationed to say about
nuclear weapon so I would like to say
about this cartoon that would began to
ball to a King City at four o'clock at
the morning and Hitler at four o'clock
in the morning and the first day of War
when I have seen my watch and thought
that the Hitler at the same time boom
Kick City like putting and Hitler and
there after that the first day I thought
the Putin it's so real Hitler off
nowadays the Reiki was making a
statement and by doing that at four
o'clock in the morning with that in mind
yes and today just today they bump at
four o'clock as the morning keeps it
looks the same way so all time they
prefer to bomb King City at night about
four or five o'clock at the morning and
the like o'clock we will put in a clock
it's a bumper block so here you've got
Putin like the cuckoo clock popping out
of the Kremlin spitting three missiles
out of his mouth he seems pretty evil in
calculating I don't know how cuckoo for
example today about 25 missiles
City and the 23 was killed by a
Ukrainian power I'm very impressed with
how good your brain is at shooting down
the missiles but put in every day uh
doing and doing this and the word is
stupid because he if we're here we will
use versus more Rockets or these
missiles you know the front in the real
world maybe he will be fair for a big
factor well more big success than bumped
civilian people here you have a lineup
with the Putin pointing a gun at his
head presumably to kill himself as all
of his people are lined up to be killed
at the same time by the same bullet and
a whole big crowd of people are watching
ZTV with all the propaganda this is kind
of complicated
prone to use until for example when I
visited Japan
Brazil you say friends and many
companies I have seen on television in
the hotel the Russian programs Russian
propaganda
and I understand that the Russian people
saw zombies on before by Russian
propaganda the null about 70 percent of
Russian people support putting in this
war
and saying in my vision
this the soul mainly zombified
himself together with Hotel because
the beginning of this war it means that
he will destroy Russia stay
and the cute many many own people
because he got calculated how many
Russian people get in the swore here's a
very impressive one from you Vlad with
Putin sitting on top of a giant Z that's
made up of it looks like a hellscape of
people living some horror
propaganda it's
a means symbol of the idea of putting a
way over this whole idea of healing
people
by ukrainians troops but they already
been new and new soldiers are going to
Ukraine from Russia because they absorb
Define and they are real in every the BQ
well you know we have an increasing
number of politicians here in the United
States that oppose American support for
Ukraine but what they seem to have in
common is that their crazy right-wing
Republicans and I think they kind of are
the stupidest Republicans yeah we got
one here in Florida named Matt Gates I'm
in his district
well we laugh at that but that's
terrible are you serious we also have we
also have a governor who came out saying
that well we need it's really just a
territorial Institute not really a we
should vault in it you know which is
which is important to run for president
yeah but when when uh the santis was a
congressman he was he was all for
supporting Ukraine which is really odd
that he's switched positions now but
he's just pandering to that far right
side of the party right that's what he's
doing it is pandering to isolationist
Republicans he's backed off of it he the
purpose was to put it out there to start
so he doesn't have to actually say he
believes it but he put it out there for
them anyway
so here's another nice one for me of
Vlad you've got Putin yanking a teddy
bear away from a child as he dreams of
this teddy bear being militarized evil
teddy bear with some creeps only puppet
future but Focus militarism
and many many young people will
established negatives going to school is
from the first class for us from the one
range and put in the road like to be a
team or to put out the childhood or
Russian children
because he would like to go to the
inquire and they know who understands
that it's very serious problems
therefore Russia built a new vegetarian
Society okay here's one of my I've got
the world this is what the world says
cease fire and what the Putin dog he
hears is a Reload you say maybe and
here's uh Putin holding up Ukraine with
his gun and the gas tank holding up
Uncle Sam this is all that a lot of
Americans care about Rick we're up to
you this has drawn right I have to be a
liquid sir I was the Olympics were
coming to a close and yeah they have
their Olympics in Russia can you imagine
that now I can imagine Russian getting
the Olympics how far we come at least
got his Olympic torch well you know the
Olympics are pretty vile about putting
their stuff in countries that it should
not be in that's true you know after
what he's done now I just can't I can't
see it and there was a protest going on
in cubed as the Sochi Olympics were
coming down in and of course you know he
sent his third gender whoever protests
he's got Putin sitting on Santa's lap
with his wish list and an office holding
the naughty and nice Intel book and says
this is what happens when you skip your
briefings yeah this is referring to
Trump was president of elect and he was
just bragging about how he was skipping
his Intel briefings and how he intended
to skip them when he became president so
uh which is sort of mocking that so here
you've got uh Putin and Trump and Trump
says he didn't do it case closed and
that's the Perry Mason moment as Putin's
pointing his gun at the 2016 election
Putin had quite an influence on the 2016
election
yeah he did and uh Donald Trump
denied it took Putin's word for it and
uh Putin said he didn't do it that was
good enough for Donald Trump yeah in
spite of what his intelligence told him
in the military totally right here
you've got Putin and he's got Trump as a
puppet to marionette that he's walking
around Syria gadry this right after
Trump withdrew our troops from Syria
which basically allowed Putin to just
slide right in there it seemed like
Trump had his stray thing pulled by
Putin he got Putin hoisted by his own
petard I wondered what a petard was and
now I can see that it's his underwear
hanging on
hang on the hammer and sickle on the old
Soviet flag yeah like will said earlier
those symbols are so great and uh Drew
this ride for Russia and invaded Ukraine
and it was obviously not going as well
as he had hoped here you've got his
Ukraine failure blowing up behind him
and Putin says I'm being canceled yeah
oh cancel culture in the news or I
thought that was a good juxtaposition
with those wild eyes so gentlemen that
was our last cartoon I hope uh hope I do
sometime in the near future we we can
stop having to draw him
about putting putting face
I am after that so tired that I had
easily Sip and to drink after the some
whiskey but
they don't follow me
well gentlemen thank you for being with
us and uh I appreciate all your cartoons
you all draw just great Putin cartoons
well I very much enjoy this Terrell
thank you and thanks to all of you thank
you very much for joining dudes thank
you very much support you well very good
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